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Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 09:17 AM
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Posted By Daniel Barton
okay I'm off to work, whats a circus without the...

okay I'm off to work, whats a circus without the clowns?
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 09:03 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
In many yes I was and that would of course be why...

In many yes I was and that would of course be why I feel that this "voodoo kool aid" exists in real life.
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 08:59 AM
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Posted By Daniel Barton
John, the difference is in how the dyno works,...

John, the difference is in how the dyno works, most but not all set the acceleration by the servo valve allowing the water to leave the pump at a certain rate, it sets the acceleration, not the...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 08:14 AM
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Posted By Daniel Barton
Stan, some were but not all.

Stan, some were but not all.
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 08:13 AM
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Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
Sorry, I cant agree with you that just because I...

Sorry, I cant agree with you that just because I don't see or understand something it is voodoo kool aid, and yes, results on the track is ALL that matters. It is perfectly fine if you don't get why...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 12:38 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
Clearly more than 1 to 1 1/2 like I said... We...

Clearly more than 1 to 1 1/2 like I said... We aren't talking about something that shows within 20 or 30 horsepower as that could be more easily excused away by aero issues, that is kind of my point.
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 12:34 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
Not 100 percent of the time...

Not 100 percent of the time...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 12:16 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
Also I might add that the engines ability to...

Also I might add that the engines ability to accelerate back from a launch or recover from a shift is what I am talking about, if you don't believe that this will have an affect on mph as well as et...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-03-2015, 12:13 AM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
I never said any of that is a waste of money or...

I never said any of that is a waste of money or time. You ever seen a graph of a car in high gear that looks like a horizontal line? I have, wasn't my stuff but some strange things were done to the...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-02-2015, 11:47 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
Because it allows for the intangible of...

Because it allows for the intangible of acceleration, which I have seen and believe to be a very real issue. I believe you can be fairly accurate with those variable without having those resources at...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-02-2015, 11:12 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
I have been around dyno's for almost every day of...

I have been around dyno's for almost every day of the last 23 years, I have seen it more than 5 and less than 10 times that stick out in my mind. All where on fairly developed competition eliminator...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-02-2015, 10:59 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
This should be obvious but we are not running 18...

This should be obvious but we are not running 18 wheelers at 300 mph... simply put I would say experience is key.
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-02-2015, 10:35 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
and Chris yours is surely not the only time I've...

and Chris yours is surely not the only time I've heard someone say they haven't seen it... Just because someone has not yet seen something sure doesn't mean it doesn't exist!
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-02-2015, 10:24 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
I have seen it...

I have seen it...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-02-2015, 10:23 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
I've had deals that have not performed as...

I've had deals that have not performed as expected, Everyone has, instead of looking for something else to blame and believing solely in the flowbench or dyno, I let it eat at me until I figured out...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 02-02-2015, 08:31 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 6,652
Posted By Daniel Barton
As one of the clowns in question, I would say one...

As one of the clowns in question, I would say one of the largest mistakes that I have seen novices make is to ignore an engines ability or inability to accelerate in order to find a horsepower number...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 11-12-2014, 10:10 PM
Replies: 245
Views: 11,460
Posted By Daniel Barton
I think its very interesting that you find that...

I think its very interesting that you find that to be an even comparison. Let me ask you and all the guys in the CV-1 camp so to speak, from designer to modifier such as you and Calvin to current and...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 11-12-2014, 08:40 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 11,460
Posted By Daniel Barton
Sure Bill, the point is that you were there, Not...

Sure Bill, the point is that you were there, Not Dick! When he states it, it is in FACT... hearsay. With all of these years now passed, how long has it been since he or myself has expressed a...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 11-12-2014, 12:29 AM
Replies: 245
Views: 11,460
Posted By Daniel Barton
What a great definition of hearsay! So what your...

What a great definition of hearsay! So what your saying is, it is a fact that you do not know this to be a fact, you just heard this from someone. Correct? Guess what that makes it Dick? You fit...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 10-10-2014, 08:09 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,866
Posted By Daniel Barton
2.9 square inches can support WAY more than 750...

2.9 square inches can support WAY more than 750 horsepower. Just because the air can be manipulated on the flowbench inside the port does not mean it will translate into doing it on a running engine.
Forum: Pontiac - Race 10-10-2014, 08:06 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,866
Posted By Daniel Barton
I figure DC from valve area, but... if it is...

I figure DC from valve area, but... if it is localized and velocity goes thru the roof for that port layout what does it do to the air and fuel mixture inside the engine? Nothing good.
Forum: Pontiac - Race 10-09-2014, 11:43 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,866
Posted By Daniel Barton
350 cfm, if the areas is correct, this being the...

350 cfm, if the areas is correct, this being the BIGGEST issue, is enough airflow to support about 850 horsepower, they show a bit over 600 going 133@3350. You probably have 2.2 to 2.3 square inches...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 10-09-2014, 09:39 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,866
Posted By Daniel Barton
It depends on many factors, I will tell you this,...

It depends on many factors, I will tell you this, Unless you have at least 3 square inches of area up by the pushrod it cannot use the area of that valve size correctly, doesn't matter what it flows...
Forum: Pontiac - Race 10-09-2014, 06:48 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 3,866
Posted By Daniel Barton
It is very critical!

It is very critical!
Forum: Pontiac - Race 10-06-2014, 07:29 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 397
Posted By Daniel Barton
You may be able to get an ex valve in hollow stem...

You may be able to get an ex valve in hollow stem with a steeper back angle like 20-25 degree and maintain the same weight. The steeper back angle usually will show an improvement over a normal 10...
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