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Old 04-02-2019, 11:43 PM
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LOL, if you look at stuff in mass production today they'd argue with you. But I digress, one offs, maybe, TTFMF! (I've seen your "magic" not make any more power sir)

And you really have no idea what software or thinking means. I rely on my brain and use software to firm up theory and testing to validate results. My teams do the same. I'm guessing you do the same, LOL. You have confirmed you're a joker clown.

You're leading me to believe you're a donkey grinder that has no fkn clue of why ****e happens.

Do you have an real words to share sir? I'm trying to restrain myself on self proclaimed "experts". Other than general terms talking about nothing, do you have anything to share? Or are you just grandstanding? I'm pretty sure I know but if I'm asked a question I'll answer honestly. I think you'll talk in generalities. And in my mind you take that approach because you really don't know. You're an experimentalist and a good one, you test and see what works, and apply it, but you really don't understand why.

I'm pretty sure I know how things work at a pretty high level. I'm questioning how good you really are.
Unbelievable. You seriously have no clue. If you knew, and you don,t would think different. Sharpest guy have ever had a conversation with about this stuff.
I think you know you are just not worth the time and don't know what to do about it.
Go away, that will work.

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Old 04-03-2019, 12:03 AM
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Opinions vary sir. Patents however, say otherwise. Look it up.

https://patents.google.com/?inventor...aron+S+Quinton


QUOTE=Dragncar;6009362]Unbelievable. You seriously have no clue. If you knew, and you don,t would think different. Sharpest guy have ever had a conversation with about this stuff.
I think you know you are just not worth the time and don't know what to do about it.
Go away, that will work.[/QUOTE]

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Old 04-03-2019, 12:17 AM
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LOL, if you look at stuff in mass production today they'd argue with you. But I digress, one offs, maybe, TTFMF! (I've seen your "magic" not make any more power sir)

And you really have no idea what software or thinking means. I rely on my brain and use software to firm up theory and testing to validate results. My teams do the same. I'm guessing you do the same, LOL. You have confirmed you're a joker clown.

You're leading me to believe you're a donkey grinder that has no fkn clue of why ****e happens.

Do you have an real words to share sir? I'm trying to restrain myself on self proclaimed "experts". Other than general terms talking about nothing, do you have anything to share? Or are you just grandstanding? I'm pretty sure I know but if I'm asked a question I'll answer honestly. I think you'll talk in generalities. And in my mind you take that approach because you really don't know. You're an experimentalist and a good one, you test and see what works, and apply it, but you really don't understand why.

I'm pretty sure I know how things work at a pretty high level. I'm questioning how good you really are.


Lol, You didn't even recognize the basics of compressible fluids that I have posted numerous times here. It is the foundation of Induction!

But yeah ,I'm the one faking it. ( eye roll )

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Old 04-03-2019, 12:25 AM
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Tell you what ,let's see what you got.

I'm going to tell you that a 3500 horsepower Turbo motor and a 3000 horse power blower motor and a 450 horsepower naturally aspirated motor are at the same track on the same day.
My claim is that all 3 motors have the exact same "peak" induction air speed. !!!!!!

Do you agree yes or no. ? And why in detail.!!

And after your Detailed answer I will share my own detailed answer as to why I make that claim.

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Old 04-03-2019, 12:41 AM
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Man I've had two rounds of official fluids dynamics that covers compressible fluids in my undergrad and graduate work. Maybe I've missed it. Hey man, if I've missed the obvious, shame on me.

I studied under the renowned author Rolf Reitz and received a passing grade (4.0).

Maybe I've not recognized the basics in your mind but I've ported my own heads, sorted my own cam lobes, and delivered stuff that moves down the street.

If I've missed the compressible fluids piece hit me up and lets talk. I'm down to talk about ANYTHING! I'm not scared to talk about ****e that fks can't manage because the nothing to offer moving forward. I'm always down!


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Lol, You didn't even recognize the basics of compressible fluids that I have posted numerous times here. It is the foundation of Induction!

But yeah ,I'm the one faking it. ( eye roll )

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Old 04-03-2019, 12:44 AM
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Don't mean crap to me because I don't even have a high school diploma

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Old 04-03-2019, 12:51 AM
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Hey man, I'm not bagging on anyone. I'm just saying ...

Talk to me in real words and not general BS and I'm happy to talk sir.

And what does this ML9 head look like. Intake valve dia, Exhaust valve dia, valve angles, minimum intake port area and exhaust port area. We're waiting on the Pontiac Magic. What does it look like sir? Are you sharing specs or talking magic again? Where you at boss?


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Old 04-03-2019, 01:33 AM
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Hey man, I'm not bagging on anyone. I'm just saying ...

Talk to me in real words and not general BS and I'm happy to talk sir.

And what does this ML9 head look like. Intake valve dia, Exhaust valve dia, valve angles, minimum intake port area and exhaust port area. We're waiting on the Pontiac Magic. What does it look like sir? Are you sharing specs or talking magic again? Where you at boss?


The majority of it is in this thread.

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Old 04-03-2019, 01:34 AM
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Tell you what ,let's see what you got.

I'm going to tell you that a 3500 horsepower Turbo motor and a 3000 horse power blower motor and a 450 horsepower naturally aspirated motor are at the same track on the same day.
My claim is that all 3 motors have the exact same "peak" induction air speed. !!!!!!

Do you agree yes or no. ? And why in detail.!!

And after your Detailed answer I will share my own detailed answer as to why I make that claim.


This clame I made is not completely true actually.

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Old 04-03-2019, 01:36 AM
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Tell you what ,let's see what you got.

I'm going to tell you that a 3500 horsepower Turbo motor and a 3000 horse power blower motor and a 450 horsepower naturally aspirated motor are at the same track on the same day.
My claim is that all 3 motors have the exact same "peak" induction air speed. !!!!!!

Do you agree yes or no. ? And why in detail.!!

And after your Detailed answer I will share my own detailed answer as to why I make that claim.


This clame I made is not completely true actually.
Both the Turbo motor and the blower motor will have a slower peak air speed then the naturally aspirated motor.

AQ, Care to discuss why ?

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Old 04-03-2019, 01:36 AM
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So BS and generalities. Right on man.
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The majority of it is in this thread.

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Yep I'm down. Where are talking in reality? Brother I'm open and welcome real discussions. You have demonstrated you're a great guy . I'm happy to talk. Hit him on 812 350 0683 or I'm happy to ring you if you're receptive. I just need your digits.

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This clame I made is not completely true actually.
Both the Turbo motor and the blower motor will have a slower peak air speed then the naturally aspirated motor.

AQ, Care to discuss why ?

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Old 04-03-2019, 01:48 AM
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I respect what you do man. You do great work.

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This clame I made is not completely true actually.
Both the Turbo motor and the blower motor will have a slower peak air speed then the naturally aspirated motor.

AQ, Care to discuss why ?

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Old 04-03-2019, 02:03 AM
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Still need to come up with away to get speed.

450 ci - 8000 RPM - 100% VE - 3500 HP - .6 bsfc - 2100 lbs/hr fuel - 13:1 A/F Ratio - 27300 lbs/hr air - 84.0856 psia @ 60F

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Pics?

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Here we go!

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Mr. Marcella hasn't been here for about a year, so he may not see your post.

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Mr. Marcella hasn't been here for about a year, so he may not see your post.
That’s cool. I figured Mr. Marcella wouldn’t have started the project without a customer. I was hoping someone would share a update or something.

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Old 06-29-2020, 06:36 PM
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Can u send me a pm to Paul

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