[pontibeast]

Originally Posted by TimeWarp

My fear with $300 porting is that you sometimes get what you pay for. lol I'd rather stick with someone like Dave at SD Perf or Bill. lol Hard to beat a CNC job that has proven itself before.

$300 could leave you with rather large paper weights.

Yeah, I hear you on that. I used a guy named Marty Warden as he was close enough for me to drive down and meet one on one and discuss my plans for the engine and I had heard good things about him from some other Pontiac guys. When I save and scratch enough money together to redo this engine it will be with SD Performance most likely doing the aluminum head porting and setup and I have already decided to have Paul K do the assembly as I have been really impressed by his attention to detail and he was very generous with his help on the engine I just finished even though I hadn't used his company for any of it. I don't run in the same crowd you guys do as far as budget and skill level but I am sure I will be happy even with the ported iron heads I have now as it is replacing a 350 Pontiac engine than ran a blistering 14.7 in my Lemans before it ate itself earlier this year. Should be a year or two before I just have to upgrade to better heads and bigger cam, last kid will be out of the house by then and hopefully the wife will have forgotten about how much I spent on this build.

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by Brandn74

I have watched this for a while now and to say the least its sad man sad.The ones that are most vocal about this head being a dud are the same ones coming up short on the track.Out of all the people that purchased these heads from Jim how many of yall can say you had a bad experience with him?He is one of the most helpful people you can meet.Built me a pair of heads and met me on a Saturday to pick them up not knowing if I was serious or not.How can anyone have a dislike for this dude other than because he want dance to your music.I can't fathom why this guy is getting such a bad wrap.Maybe he wouldn't give free parts who knows.Bill has been a big help on explaining about not just Pontiac but other heads from different makes.Why continue with the constant trove of bs when clearly none of you guys that are going on and on intend on buying these heads.Let the ones who purchased them (like myself) have a shot at making some power without all the opinionated bs.If Robin Roberts came to Norwalk from the desert and couldn't get a race then this whole argument of which is better is dead cause NOBODY has proven them wrong yet.Dick Fulton was at Norwalk this year and still no attempt to discredit the claims of Jim or Bill.I wonder why?From where I sit the cv1 is on top and if you think otherwise step up and get beside one of them at the track so everybody can see who has a better car at the track not the dyno room.If you make 1100-1200 on the dyno but get to the track and cant beat most sbc's then you might want to look at yourself not Roland Racing or Bill Anderson.Jim you and Bill keep doing what you are doing and the truth will come out it already has begun to.

I ran against a power adder CV-1 car at the track...I was naturally aspirated. I did not hold the losing slip and it was not a bracket race...

[TimeWarp]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

I ran against a power adder CV-1 car at the track...I was naturally aspirated. I did not hold the losing slip and it was not a bracket race...

And you can say you know it was the heads that were the issue with that car?

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

I put my original post above... Please put your reading comprehension hat on and try it again...

Weight and CI of Mikes car would be appreciated as well...

From his signature;

Mike McCarty You can drop the line, but you'll never kill the spirit!
Pump gas 535 w/Marcella cv/1's. 11.0 compression, 4000 stall, 3.73 gears, 275 radial, to the axle exhaust, 3470# w/driver. 9.63 @ 140..........so far

I could type s l o w e r if you like. You come out stating why all of these guys jumped ship. Heck I jumped ship from E-heads because I see more potential.

So just to be clear here, you are claiming you can make 850HP NA (Pontiac) with standard port E-heads or were you planning on using the blower?

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by GTO Dan

Agreed. There is a long history and a lot of bad blood. I'll admit I do like the trash talking, as long as it is not personal. It is just too ugly here from all sides.

I mentioned early on in this thread that the performance of the heads and combinations should do the talking. They now have a voice and more credibility than ever. Let them talk and if you do need to speak up handle it the way Dick and Robin do.

... now that is a really good post, and i hear what your saying Dan, i will do my best ...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

I ran against a power adder CV-1 car at the track...I was naturally aspirated. I did not hold the losing slip and it was not a bracket race...

:l alala:

[TimeWarp]

I agreee. The personal stuff should stop. AND the stuff people claim isnt personal but really...is. Just let it go. Lets race hard and put the past behind us.

[T Syron]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

I don't have any of the CV-1 heads but I have followed what is going on with them from the beginning.

1. Pontiac Dude kept telling us they were the best thing since sliced bread only to later recant all of that and switch combo's...

2. Mystic - Used to tell us they were the best thing since a pocket on a T-shirt to later recant all of that and switch combo's.

3. S/st was a vehement supporter of the CV program and mentioned how great they were only to completely switch engine camps and recant his support of the product.

4. Rusty4cyl - Huge supporter of the CV-1 camp who recanted and switched to a different head combo.

5. goatracer - fast Nitrous Mustang guy no longer runs the CV head and may have switched engine camps as well - not sure without digging...

6. Dino - was going to beat everyone with his CV combo but got so aggravated that he sold out and bought a boat (you can have a boat and a car too)...

Who all have I missed?

I am wondering who will be the next Ex CV guy who is now posting on this thread about how great they are that will change his combo up and pretend like he never said the stuff he did later?

Some guys never had a set but are huge Cheeleaders...ome have a set but haven't gotten them running so I am going to throw them in Cheerleader camp too...

I never post about how great any head is unless I have personal experience ie on my own car...I had high hopes for Edelbrocks Pro Port to come out as an actual buy it now race head that could be bought in assembled form or bare but completed to the point you could buy your own head components and put it together the way you liked but we all know that didn't happen.

All I have ever run is either iron heads or Edelbrock Performer RPM heads and I can tell you even though they are a huge pile of chit to some they will sure put a smile on your face. I have a set of 1st gen Edelbrock 87cc heads on my 8-71 blown street car with the multiple length head bolts and I am having 0 oil issues and have no modifications done for that. I have no performance numbers but in NA form without the adder I could drive it 65 miles to the track on pump 91 and turn 10.60's at 3850 lbs and drive home...never run hot...gas at most any gas station. With the blower the engine has a bunch more of everything and I didn't even change the cam...

My other set flow 314 cfm and are 72cc. I had them ported by a chebby guy in a wheel chair for $300 and then took them and had them flowed. The flow bench operator said they were the quietest head he had ever flowed. I put them on my 462 for my 3400 lb "tagged small tire race car" and ran 9.90's at around 139 MPH until the stock block/crank gave it up in April 2013 on the Highway 1 mile from my house (Block took out crank).

I am looking to step it up with an aftermarket block because I have been out of the racing for a few years now. I have thought Hi Ports from KRE but I have outrun a bunch of those with my E's in similar config. I like the Tiger head but probably won't use it, I really like the DCI RAV and that may be the ticket if I can get a quality header that fit's my chassis. Won't consider the CV-1 because too many have jumped ship even though according to reports "every single person who has ever used them has picked up"...I know If I pick up I don't jump ship that quick...

What will actually probably actually happen for me is either my E-heads will be sent to SD performance for more port work or I will just step up to a Wide Port E because I have a bunch of experience with the E-heads and I have never have had an issue with quality or performance on them...

I bought Goatracers old heads. Same exact port, same springs, same rockers as when he owned them. Made 999hp @ 7600. Could have tuned a little more and fixed a couple issues and made well over 1000hp.

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

From his signature;

Mike McCarty You can drop the line, but you'll never kill the spirit!
Pump gas 535 w/Marcella cv/1's. 11.0 compression, 4000 stall, 3.73 gears, 275 radial, to the axle exhaust, 3470# w/driver. 9.63 @ 140..........so far

I could type s l o w e r if you like. You come out stating why all of these guys jumped ship. Heck I jumped ship from E-heads because I see more potential.

So just to be clear here, you are claiming you can make 850HP NA (Pontiac) with standard port E-heads or were you planning on using the blower?

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

Hey, I wasn't the one with reading comprehension issues. I stated all these guys jumped ship EVEN THOUGH TTBill said they all picked up with their CV1 heads. I also stated if I had that kind of success I wouldn't be so quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater...

I read that after he posted. 70 lbs more weight...73 moore ci...yea I can see the extra 10th of a second...Marcella helped him make a real nice set of heads for that 535...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Or with 9.70's at 3400 lbs at 462 ci...

... is there any video of this ?? ...

[Brandn74]

TimeWarp not to be a killjoy but that race won't happen my man.It will stop all the bashing and some can't have that.

[scott70]

Im surprised with how much time is spent on this thread by some people when they probably should be working on something.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Hey, I wasn't the one with reading comprehension issues. I stated all these guys jumped ship EVEN THOUGH TTBill said they all picked up with their CV1 heads. I also stated if I had that kind of success I wouldn't be so quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater...

I read that after he posted. 70 lbs more weight...73 moore ci...yea I can see the extra 10th of a second...Marcella helped him make a real nice set of heads for that 535...

... so is your car a pump gas driver ?? ... i'm honestly asking as i'm not sure ...

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by T Syron

I bought Goatracers old heads. Same exact port, same springs, same rockers as when he owned them. Made 999hp @ 7600. Could have tuned a little more and fixed a couple issues and made well over 1000hp.

Good job - looking forward to seeing those basement 8 second time slips with your 67...

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... so is your car a pump gas driver ?? ... i'm honestly asking as i'm not sure ...

Yessir - 11:1... I broke the block on the highway 1 mile from our house...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by T Syron

I bought Goatracers old heads. Same exact port, same springs, same rockers as when he owned them. Made 999hp @ 7600. Could have tuned a little more and fixed a couple issues and made well over 1000hp.

... hummm, i'm guessing the force is strong with Calvin's diegrinder ?? ...

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... is there any video of this ?? ...

Probably somewhere but we didn't take any. I am too busy driving and my wife is video challenged to say the least...

[T Syron]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Good job - looking forward to seeing those basement 8 second time slips with your 67...

Not basement at my weight.

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Hey, I wasn't the one with reading comprehension issues. I stated all these guys jumped ship EVEN THOUGH TTBill said they all picked up with their CV1 heads. I also stated if I had that kind of success I wouldn't be so quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater...

I read that after he posted. 70 lbs more weight...73 moore ci...yea I can see the extra 10th of a second...Marcella helped him make a real nice set of heads for that 535...

You ran that fast in the heat at Norwalk?

So just to be clear here, you are claiming you can make 850HP NA (Pontiac) with standard port E-heads or were you planning on using the blower?

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by TimeWarp

And you can say you know it was the heads that were the issue with that car?

All I know is "Bill" was a bunch faster before the CV-1 heads and was pretty bummed out about the whole deal. He was also building a bunch of blowby because it was a real mosquito killer. He ran 10 teens with a 400 CI with Eheads in the same car. Pretty sure it never went faster than that at 535 CI and blown...