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Question about Rosette Rivets
I have been doing a little research on my 1965 GTO VIN rivet.
I notice that most have the rosette rivet.I just looked at this one on eBay and it is very similar to mine in number and has a circular rivet like mine. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...US_Cars_Trucks Check out picture 42. Mine looks just like that. Mine being a 5P366812.Very similar. So here is my question. Maybe at that time they used the circular rivets or both Vin tags were remove and replaced with the circular ones. Would like to get a little feedback what everyone else thinks. |
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If someone has a survivor from Pontiac,Michigan plant with round rivets I guess would help solve the question.
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Keith Seymour on this board has a very low mileage 65 that his dad bought new. This topic has been discussed before I think and Keith had some comments on the subject; i just can't remember what he had to say. He usually checks this board during the week, maybe he'll answer this post on Monday.
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The one's in the picture don't look like they are even stainless steel, they looked like they were removed for paint and put back on.
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Not a '65, but my parents bought mine original as a special order out of the Pontiac plant. It's had a respray but the firewall, vinyl top, trunk and door jambs are still original. It has the rosette rivets on the drivers side post vin plate.
I agree with John62 that the eBay car plate looks like it may have been removed for paint and polished.
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If you haven't already, do a search on the word rosettre.. Their are 10 or more threads with this discussed. "Bill"!
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My car has round rivets.
Built September of 1964 in Pontiac Michigan. We are thinking the rivet style was changed some time during the 1965 model year. K
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My car has round rivets.
Built September of 1964 in Pontiac Michigan. We are thinking the rivet style was changed some time during the 1965 model year. August of 1965 seems awfully late, though, for round rivets. K
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'63 LeMans Convertible '63 Grand Prix '65 GTO - original, unrestored, Dad was original owner, 5000 original mile Royal Pontiac factory racer '74 Chevelle - original owner, 9.85 @ 136 mph besthttp://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ My Pontiac Story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 "Intro from an old Assembly Plant Guy":http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 |
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Bill,
Yes I did do the research a little.... Came up with this.... http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...hlight=rosette Look at post #7 member 242177P |
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Sorry about the double post. It bears repeating, I guess (lol).
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Also: Lust4speed has some interesting input in post #20, which goes against the "changed over during the '65 model year" theory. There certainly was some variation between final assembly plants but 2 years seems a bit excessive. K
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'63 LeMans Convertible '63 Grand Prix '65 GTO - original, unrestored, Dad was original owner, 5000 original mile Royal Pontiac factory racer '74 Chevelle - original owner, 9.85 @ 136 mph besthttp://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ My Pontiac Story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 "Intro from an old Assembly Plant Guy":http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 Last edited by Keith Seymore; 02-09-2015 at 09:49 AM. |
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here is a 1965 Freemont built unrestored GTO with round rivets
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Rosette rivets on an 06B Pontiac built '65 GTO. Referring to this data point I would expect anything built after June in Pontiac (at a minimum) to have rosette rivets, assuming they changed over once and didn't flip back and forth. K
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'63 LeMans Convertible '63 Grand Prix '65 GTO - original, unrestored, Dad was original owner, 5000 original mile Royal Pontiac factory racer '74 Chevelle - original owner, 9.85 @ 136 mph besthttp://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ My Pontiac Story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 "Intro from an old Assembly Plant Guy":http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 Last edited by Keith Seymore; 02-10-2015 at 11:17 AM. |
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looks like 12/1964 was in service date.
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'63 LeMans Convertible '63 Grand Prix '65 GTO - original, unrestored, Dad was original owner, 5000 original mile Royal Pontiac factory racer '74 Chevelle - original owner, 9.85 @ 136 mph besthttp://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ My Pontiac Story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 "Intro from an old Assembly Plant Guy":http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 |
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Originally Posted by RAII 4-speed View Post here is a 1965 Freemont built unrestored GTO with round rivets John - can you please refresh my memory as to when this car was built? Car was 12A Freemont built...... |
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Car was built in Pontiac,Mich in July in 1965.
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Delivery Date Stamp
I see in post #11 the Fremont VIN shows the delivery date stamp (I think?).
I have seen this before on some early VIN, but not common. My 65 does not have this, so I guess it was a dealer decision?
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Vintags.com has the rosset rivets, they don't show them on there web site but they do have them when you call.
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Mine does not have the date stamp. K
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'63 LeMans Convertible '63 Grand Prix '65 GTO - original, unrestored, Dad was original owner, 5000 original mile Royal Pontiac factory racer '74 Chevelle - original owner, 9.85 @ 136 mph besthttp://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ My Pontiac Story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 "Intro from an old Assembly Plant Guy":http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 |
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My 64 has the dealer in service date stamp on it .
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