[johnta1]

Only retired people who live in Floriduh have time to read all that!

Probably true.

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Only retired people who live in Floriduh have time to read all that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z4Uz4hJ8z4

[PPM505]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Dude, your hot rod is going to fly going from a stock set of CV1s to a good set of APD fully ported set!

Were your fully ported Es wide ports?
I don't think they were a boutique set.

Good luck and keep at it!!

My e heads was done by butler, they was as big as they could go without being wide ports and I know everyone has their own situation and preference but in mine I had more money in my e heads than I have in my whole top end right now (long story) the e heads can make power but so can the tigers,wenzlers,and CV1. I am happy that there are options out there, I also had some casting issues with the e heads. We actually cracked one around a head stud and it would leak water lol but I am not bashing the e heads I liked them and hauled ass with them but I like my CV1s and have hauled ass with them and I really believe when I soften the chamber a little and do the convertible exhaust to help get heat out I will go faster. To me the CV1 is a good na head and can be a great nitrous head with a little work and still be more cost effective than Tigers or some of the big excotic heads.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by john marcella

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z4Uz4hJ8z4

I was going to say "ain't nobody got time for dat"!
But thought that was beat to death on YB.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by PPM505

My e heads was done by butler, they was as big as they could go without being wide ports and I know everyone has their own situation and preference but in mine I had more money in my e heads than I have in my whole top end right now (long story) the e heads can make power but so can the tigers,wenzlers,and CV1. I am happy that there are options out there, I also had some casting issues with the e heads. We actually cracked one around a head stud and it would leak water lol but I am not bashing the e heads I liked them and hauled ass with them but I like my CV1s and have hauled ass with them and I really believe when I soften the chamber a little and do the convertible exhaust to help get heat out I will go faster. To me the CV1 is a good na head and can be a great nitrous head with a little work and still be more cost effective than Tigers or some of the big excotic heads.

I think it's a Good P/A head, not so much for NA. That convertible exhaust I think is a hoax.

Worst thing with making big power with a Pontiac is the two center exhaust valves next to each other and the thin wall on big bore motors, oh and only have ten head bolts!!

But again we must adapt and over come!!

[Aaron Quinton]

HFS and well done bro! :-)

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Dude, your hot rod is going to fly going from a stock set of CV1s to a good set of APD fully ported set!

Were your fully ported Es wide ports?
I don't think they were a boutique set.

Good luck and keep at it!!

[bankbook]

Congrats Kendall on the race.

Good to see a Pontiac in the front

[S/st 54]

Thanks Doc! I really didnt expect this thread to take a turn like it did but it did.



Thanks Guys who gave my friend Kendal the high five he deserves it!The ones that know how tough it is to get a pontiac to run a number.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Aaron Quinton

HFS and well done bro! :-)

Well, I was going to say comparing a 330cfm inline head to a 380cfm canted valve head with a big head is a joke, but we all beat that horse to death!


Just sayn!

[Aaron Quinton]

Ok I take it back man. I thought you really wanted a set of Warp 6 heads but 7 hours and 18 minutes is a step in the right direction. Keep working on it! Lol

380 cfm is flow area, canted valves or not. The only thing canted valves provide is more flow area on a small bore where you can't put larger valves with an inline head. Inlines have done 450 so canted heads should have higher flow potenial but you have to have yhe cid and rpm to utilize them.

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Well, I was going to say comparing a 330cfm inline head to a 380cfm canted valve head with a big head is a joke, but we all beat that horse to death!


Just sayn!

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

I think it's a Good P/A head, not so much for NA. That convertible exhaust I think is a hoax.

Worst thing with making big power with a Pontiac is the two center exhaust valves next to each other and the thin wall on big bore motors, oh and only have ten head bolts!!

But again we must adapt and over come!!

Wow this this thread has probably gone more squirrely than racin on skinny tires!

Hoax??? Jack... I'll try to give you some insight on the convertible exhaust... when exhaust valve first opens there is a release of pressure and exhaust gas both are very high pressure and velocity... it takes less energy to go straight for a bit than be forced to turn right past the valve... our traditional droop snoot hasnt shown up as an advatage for the big boys in pro-stock or comp eliminator so I think there is merit in having a high ex port exit as that seems to be the trend in non Pontiac race cylinder heads.

Another thing the convertible exhaust does is put a good amount of exhaust heat ABOVE the centerbolt...heat rises...

Convertible exhaust or std cv1/Pontiac ra4 style exhaust, the cv's also have a cooling vein on the center bolt boss that also helps pull heat away from the center bolt boss.

CV2 with convertible exhaust is better idea yet... wish Jim could be convinced to cast some in re-tool port configuration...

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Aaron Quinton

Ok I take it back man. I thought you really wanted a set of Warp 6 heads but 7 hours and 18 minutes is a step in the right direction. Keep working on it! Lol

380 cfm is flow area, canted valves or not. The only thing canted valves provide is more flow area on a small bore where you can't put larger valves with an inline head. Inlines have done 450 so canted heads should have higher flow potenial but you have to have yhe cid and rpm to utilize them.

I'm going Captain Kirk!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

Wow this this thread has probably gone more squirrely than racin on skinny tires!

Hoax??? Jack... I'll try to give you some insight on the convertible exhaust... when exhaust valve first opens there is a release of pressure and exhaust gas both are very high pressure and velocity... it takes less energy to go straight for a bit than be forced to turn right past the valve... our traditional droop snoot hasnt shown up as an advatage for the big boys in pro-stock or comp eliminator so I think there is merit in having a high ex port exit as that seems to be the trend in non Pontiac race cylinder heads.

Another thing the convertible exhaust does is put a good amount of exhaust heat ABOVE the centerbolt...heat rises...

Convertible exhaust or std cv1/Pontiac ra4 style exhaust, the cv's also have a cooling vein on the center bolt boss that also helps pull heat away from the center bolt boss.

CV2 with convertible exhaust is better idea yet... wish Jim could be convinced to cast some in re-tool port configuration...

Can I get some CV2s?

Which # port is the retool port?

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by bankbook

Congrats Kendall on the race.

Good to see a Pontiac in the front

When are we going to see you post CV1TTFMF???

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

When are we going to see you post CV1TTFMF???

I think he has to race first???

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Can I get some CV2s?

Which # port is the retool port?

jack you cant get Warps,Cv'1s or Cv2's. LMAO!!!!

get the Visners!!!!!!

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

jack you cant get Warps,Cv'1s or Cv2's. LMAO!!!!

get the Visners!!!!!!

There you go Jack... maybe Visner doesnt know of you yet.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Can I get some CV2s?

Which # port is the retool port?

I've wanted CV2 all along.... it was on the drawing board first... I think he got talked out of that because of cam/header change adding cost to consumer... plus didnt want to step on McCartys V project at the time...

Which #?...I lost count Jack, I got a cheap calculator... but re-tool port is starter level with more material to accomodate 500+ without adding material. re-tool as cast port "only" goes 414 at .950" with a 2.125 valve, 328 at .500", 297 at .400"

Let this thread go back to Kendall and not head games. Hookin up an 8.5 tire is no easy task.

[David Holmberg]

I want an LS3 style head for our Pontiacs. If the CV2 has that layout, great!

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

I think he has to race first???

Why would he? The rest don't. Heck half don't even own cv1s that love on them so much!


Ya, I know.....But I couldn't resist......It was right there waiting to be said.