[takid455]

Looking to see how many '79 Y84 Hardtop cars with 403 engines were produced.

[W72-Bandit]

Pontiac's official numbers say all 79 Y84s had tops, however documented hardtop cars are known. I've seen one 403 car and two 400 cars. To answer your question, no one knows.

[transamfan1981]

There were 9,874 79 403 S/E hardtops. All of them were automatic. Are you looking at one?

[2manyT/A'S]

Originally Posted by transamfan1981

There were 9,874 79 403 S/E hardtops. All of them were automatic. Are you looking at one?

The # you quote is for 79 Y84 403's WITH t-tops,according to my sources.

[transamfan1981]

403 48,488

T-Top 403 30,728

S.E. 403 9,874

[takid455]

not looking for one, I found one. just deciding whether to pick it up or not.

[W72-Bandit]

Originally Posted by takid455

not looking for one, I found one. just deciding whether to pick it up or not.

If its a documented 79 Y84 hardtop, its rare! Depending on condition, it would be worth having/saving.

[takid455]

even with a non original 301 engine? As far as documentation, Y84 is stamped in the cowl tag and nothing appears to have been tampered.

[Ben M.]

It's rare, but whether it is worth a whole lot is obviously the bigger question. Is it originally a 301 or a 403? The 301 is going to hurt value.

[W72-Bandit]

Norwood built cars have Y84 stamped on the cowl tag. Ben is right, hard to determine worth. Matching #'s would help. If it were a W72 car, I know several people that would be interested. Nice to know there is another one out there.

[takid455]

Originally it was a 403 car. that engine is gone. Not sure why anyone would install a 301 in its place? Typically a 400/455 or chevy would be installed. Being it is a 403 car, it would not be a W72 nor do I believe it is a WS6 due to the rear drum brakes. Potential value ( reasonable, not Barret Jackson pricing) is my other question/ concern.

[transamfan1981]

It is odd someone downgraded the engine.

Worth. It is hard to determine. Looking at it, 9,000 were built and there is over 1 million people. Not many cars looking at it that way. Or out of the 9,000 that were built, how many are sitting in a junkyard. With a 403 back in it, may be worth a good price. Can you post any pics of it?

[2manyT/A'S]

Engine code in VIN for 403 is K & 301 was W in 1979.

That will tell you what it came with.

[W72-Bandit]

Just to clarify, total production of 79 SE was 11554.

9874 403/auto
360 301/auto
213 301/4spd
1107 400/4spd

Pontiac's official numbers state all of these cars were produced with t-tops. However documented hardtop cars to exist. How many were produced is not known. If it were in the double digits, or less, I would not be surprised.

[2manyT/A'S]

Originally Posted by W72-Bandit

Just to clarify, total production of 79 SE was 11554.

9874 403/auto
360 301/auto
213 301/4spd
1107 400/4spd

Pontiac's official numbers state all of these cars were produced with t-tops. However documented hardtop cars to exist. How many were produced is not known. If it were in the double digits, or less, I would not be surprised.

So that makes the 79 Y84 301/4-speed the lowest production (published) 79 Trans am at 213 built.

Do you have or have you seen a build sheet for a 79 Y84 WITHOUT hatch roofs?

[lumarkhood]

Yes.

The PHS for a '79 Y84 without t-tops lists the cost for the Y84 at $674.00

The PHS for a '79 Y84 with t-tops lists the cost for the Y84 at $1,329.00

Have never heard a definite number of doc'd '79 Y84's with no t-tops. Have to figure less than 15 or so remaining, which includes 403 and Z codes.

Mark

[W72-Bandit]

Here is a link to one of the two I know of. Both are 1107 cars.

Mark, I figured you would find this thread!

http://www.bandittransamclub.com/Mike%20Farrell.htm

[takid455]

Vin is a 'K' = 403

info
car:
1979 Y84 hardtop blk w/ hobnail tan interior. body solid sans for some rust bubbles on rear corner of doors and a bubble on front 1/4 dog leg. 1/4's, tail, trunk, floors, ect solid. gold dash, shifter button and horn. repainted body at least 10 yrs ago. dash is perfect, but seats are faded/ worn and plastics, headliner and carpet would need replacing. 56k miles. disk/drum. a/c removed except for firewall box and interior items. 403 is gone and has a 301 N.A. (yeech) in it. th350 trans. 3rd gen rims. any idea of worth?

pics

[Ben M.]

It's rare, but I don't think it necessarily falls into the "valuable" category. It's probably worth a little more than a considerably conditioned SE with t-tops. The factory 403 and it being gone are going to significantly hold back value compared to a 400\4 speed car (which I am sure you are tired of us saying by now ;-) ).

In the world of stupid prices of the last few years, it would be worth some crazy amounts. As of now, getting $5k-7k for it (assuming it has a hood, runs well, and doesn't need any major bodywork) would be a good value in *my* opinion. If it was finished and perfect (paint, AC, close to matching motor, etc), closer to $12-15k. Perhaps you can find someone willing to pay more because of it being an SE or a t-top delete SE, but if someone offered you cash in that range and you seriously want to sell, I wouldn't snub them. Niche cars with options like that aren't always something people will pay extra for (SE, yes. T-top delete SE, not necessarily).

[W72-Bandit]

I would say 5k. Lack of tops makes it unique in what seems to be an ocean of SE cars.
I wouldn't dump a bunch of cash into thinking your gonna sell it for big bucks down the road. Obviously a conversation piece though!