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Internal or external flywheel balancing for my 1978 T/A
I am putting a new clutch in my 1978 T/A with the original (400) engine and transmission and I need a new flywheel.
Does this car have an external or internal balanced flywheel? Looking at several sights (such as Summit) they show flywheels that are supposed to be correct but some say external balance and some say internal. Last, is there any prep that needs to be done with the new flywheel before installation, other than wiping it clean with brake cleaner? Thanks in advance for advice given. |
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Factory are external balance. Look at a factory flex plate. Holes are not symmetrical all around.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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hays billet steel is a great flywheel & what i used on my 78 W72 400, no prep before installation.
traditional pontiac v8's are considered neutral balance & most pontiac flywheel/flexplates ive seen are referred to as neutral or internal balance. the flywheel/flexplate comes pre-balanced & aren't part of the engine balance like a chevy or the 301 that use the damper & flexplate/flywheel as part of the balance, those are what i always considered external balanced. might be wrong on the terms or maybe people just confuse them? https://www.jegs.com/i/Hays/490/13-1...SABEgLSBfD_BwE |
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Factory flywheels are not neutral balanced.https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...99#post5855699
Also, if buying a new flywheel, don't assume that it is machined flat. I bought a brand new Hayes about 7 years ago, and the machined clutch disc surface was not flat. Short story, I had issues with the clutch not fully releasing, as last resort took the new flywheel to local machine shop to have it checked and they confirmed that it was way off. Solved my clutch issue.
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yes the flexplate itself is balanced "externally" but its for an engine that is balanced internally or neutrally. look at the description in that jegs link for the hays flywheel, it calls it internal balanced & further down says "engine balance: neutral" my hays flywheel bought about 10 years ago was confirmed flat & had no issues you described. but i agree its good to have it checked out. |
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There are Pontiac flywheels that have an add on balance weight for factory balance not "neutral" PRW for one. Most SFI flexplates do not have the missing hole external balance like a stock flex plate also. To me "Internal"," neutral" means flywheel has no external to it and is totally neutral. Might all be semantics but the flywheel manufacturers other than PRW with the weight do not make it real clear.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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