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Old 11-20-2018, 10:20 PM
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Default Launch retard w/Power Grid /Nitrous

Got my new power grid was setting up the launch retard new trans th400 210 w/a brake leaving on the bottle .Neal Chance converter 4000

Base timing 32

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Old 11-21-2018, 11:15 AM
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Really nobody in here has any experience setting up a msd power grid to leave on T-brake on nitrous.. . Ok no problem ..

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Old 11-21-2018, 11:48 AM
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It depends on a few things.
Is it 1 kit or 2?
if its just one is it on a progressive? (If so need to know what the ramp is on that.)
How big of shot are you spraying?
How much timing are you pulling for the nitrous?
And MOST of all how good the track is and how much the Chassis / Track can take from the launch.

But here is generic launch retard Grid

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Old 11-21-2018, 12:12 PM
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It depends on a few things.
Is it 1 kit or 2?
if its just one is it on a progressive? (If so need to know what the ramp is on that.)
How big of shot are you spraying?
How much timing are you pulling for the nitrous?
And MOST of all how good the track is and how much the Chassis / Track can take from the launch.

But here is generic launch retard Grid
First off thank you Billy for answering my question ..
Ok One Kit fogger
No progressive
Shot Size for now is 275
Base timing 32 pulling 8
Track is always good car has been 1.24 60ft on a small plate 150 shot


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Old 11-21-2018, 07:33 PM
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Mark there is no real chart to go by here. It all about what you're combo likes and can take. I'm not a nitrous guy and I'm sure there are several on here that could speak with more knowledge about it ( Lil Jack / Kinsler ). But I would probably start pretty close with the 4 degrees over .75 like above and adjust it from there. If it spins pull more or stretch it out longer. It if doesn't spin pull less until it does and back up one step. Just my opinion (which don't mean chit ) Good luck

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Old 11-21-2018, 08:09 PM
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Mark there is no real chart to go by here. It all about what you're combo likes and can take. I'm not a nitrous guy and I'm sure there are several on here that could speak with more knowledge about it ( Lil Jack / Kinsler ). But I would probably start pretty close with the 4 degrees over .75 like above and adjust it from there. If it spins pull more or stretch it out longer. It if doesn't spin pull less until it does and back up one step. Just my opinion (which don't mean chit ) Good luck
Thank You Billy Happy Thanksgiving hopefully someone else step in ….

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Old 11-22-2018, 11:52 AM
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Mark, what specifically are you trying to do?

Going from a 2.48 to a 2.10 first gear will calm the leave down.

Honestly with a 275 shot and a good track you might not need to pull any timing.

The fastest it will gonis by getting all the Nitrous and timing it will take as fast as possible.

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Old 11-22-2018, 06:16 PM
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Mark, what specifically are you trying to do?

Going from a 2.48 to a 2.10 first gear will calm the leave down.

Honestly with a 275 shot and a good track you might not need to pull any timing.

The fastest it will gonis by getting all the Nitrous and timing it will take as fast as possible.
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Old 11-23-2018, 11:13 AM
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Mark, what specifically are you trying to do?

Going from a 2.48 to a 2.10 first gear will calm the leave down.

Honestly with a 275 shot and a good track you might not need to pull any timing.

The fastest it will gonis by getting all the Nitrous and timing it will take as fast as possible.
Depends on chassis and track conditions. I would still pull some launch retard out on the first couple hits until you see what it is going to do. What rpm are you leaving at on the brake?

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Old 11-23-2018, 01:24 PM
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Depends on chassis and track conditions. I would still pull some launch retard out on the first couple hits until you see what it is going to do. What rpm are you leaving at on the brake?
Lol not sure yet new transmission from Hutch never had a brake before this trans has a 210 first gear converter is a 4000 I was thinking leaving at 3500 but I sure could use some advice on this .My car works pretty good foot braking 1.24 60ft my track is always good .. Thanks Jeff

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Lol not sure yet new transmission from Hutch never had a brake before this trans has a 210 first gear converter is a 4000 I was thinking leaving at 3500 but I sure could use some advice on this .My car works pretty good foot braking 1.24 60ft my track is always good .. Thanks Jeff
Like Jeff said EVERY car is different, sometimes common sense goes a long ways!


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Like Jeff said EVERY car is different, sometimes common sense goes a long ways!


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Thank you George was looking for racer with experience programming a Msd power grid box on nitrous leaving on a t-brake.Could you share your experience with us because I have none so I ask other who do … That is just common sense...

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Same goes with a tire pressure gauge and a degree wheel.

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Lol not sure yet new transmission from Hutch never had a brake before this trans has a 210 first gear converter is a 4000 I was thinking leaving at 3500 but I sure could use some advice on this .My car works pretty good foot braking 1.24 60ft my track is always good .. Thanks Jeff
Converter seems a bit tight but leaving at 3500 should be a good start. Pull timing out for a second and go from there. Start slow. That's what I would do anyway.

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Converter seems a bit tight but leaving at 3500 should be a good start. Pull timing out for a second and go from there. Start slow. That's what I would do anyway.
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Same goes with a tire pressure gauge and a degree wheel.
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Converter seems a bit tight but leaving at 3500 should be a good start. Pull timing out for a second and go from there. Start slow. That's what I would do anyway.
Thanks Jeff just try to figure out the grid and how to pull or put timing in then how much to start with.. ..

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Thanks Jeff just try to figure out the grid and how to pull or put timing in then how much to start with.. ..
Try doing a search on you tube! Lots of Grid stuff on there.


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Try doing a search on you tube! Lots of Grid stuff on there.


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Thanks George I have been reading on Yellow bullet.. I will learn it guaranteed

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Try doing a search on you tube! Lots of Grid stuff on there.


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Why go to you tube? Jeff and Jack seem to have it figured out... I would go with their advice.

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