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#1
09-27-2018, 09:07 PM
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62 389SD almost done..
Rare 62 389 SD motor just back from the machine shop, waiting on the matching Carter carbs and long branch manifolds. ..then backed up by a 4spd and into my 62 Catalina. .
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#2
09-27-2018, 09:17 PM
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That is awesome!!!!!
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#3
09-27-2018, 09:18 PM
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Cool! I have a M/T crossram I want to use on a motor also.
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09-28-2018, 06:50 AM
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Very cool!
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#5
09-28-2018, 06:52 AM
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Cool in the looks dept yes, every day drivablity, not much!
Those intakes do not have a much needed balance tube / port and is one of the main reasons why they fell out of use so fast other then for all out racing!
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#6
09-28-2018, 10:10 AM
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I drove one on the street WAY back around 1964,it drove OK but did not race as well as the factory bathtub tunnel ram.Tom
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#7
09-28-2018, 10:31 AM
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Yes looks are great, plus the mopar guys think it's a mopar motor in a pontiac. .looking forward to hearing it run
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#8
09-28-2018, 11:25 AM
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Port matching on the intake and heads, port matched intake runners 6 inches in the intake and gasket matched the carb gaskets, plus extensive head work. .
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#9
09-28-2018, 11:28 AM
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Which heads?Tom
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#10
09-28-2018, 03:41 PM
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Some of the 409 guys use them and those have no way for a balance tube. Pricier than our Pontiac ones.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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#11
09-28-2018, 03:45 PM
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09-28-2018, 07:47 PM
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Mine ALSO does and is converted for '65 and up heads AND Holley carbs, lol.
There is some truth for the need for a Balance Tube. I believe there are 3 intakes with those mods. 65-up heads, Balance Tube, and intakes look factory. Skips, Mine, and Richards. I have one more intake and it will have the Water Cross-over front portion cut off (allowing for a 65/66 Water Gooseneck/cross-over) and I will remove the two plenums and run side draft 48mm IDA WEBER CARBS. Love the old SD Engines especially with the one-off intakes. Nice project!!!!!!
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#13
09-28-2018, 08:00 PM
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FYI!The M/T cross ram was not and is not a SD item!Tom
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09-28-2018, 08:19 PM
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Yes M/T cross ram is not part an SD item, neither are M/T hemi heads, but let's consider what M/T did for the Pontiac name and engine, he was a legend .. the M/T cross ram gives it a different look and character, also the heads are 980s ,,
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#15
09-28-2018, 08:35 PM
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NICE for the 980s!A 859 for performance would be my choice,just not the eye candy of the X ram!Do you have the original linkage for the Xram?I might still have a set.Tom
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#16
09-28-2018, 09:10 PM
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Thanks Tom, have the original linkage for the cross ram, I will send updates after next week when I get the carbs back..
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#17
09-28-2018, 09:18 PM
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Well, even if its not a SD intake, I think multiple carbs are cool as hell. And a super rare M/T cross ram on a SD long block. Nice! Please keep us posted.
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#18
09-29-2018, 09:10 AM
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SD Parts was a Marketing Name for some Pontiac parts.
Ford used the Super Duty Name before Pontiac latched on to it. Some Ford Trucks were marketed as Super Duty Trucks and had the Hood Scoop that we all love and put on early 60s Tempests. RA-V Heads are Ford Heads that could almost perfectly bolt onto a Pontiac Block. The Difference is Mickey Thompson made a lot of parts that were for Pontiac Engines. So if we get past the What is SD Parts vs what is not SD parts and just build the car/engine the way that you want to build it, then all is pretty simple. So help me out Tom S. Did Mickey Thompson ever make a Cross-Ram intake for Pontiac that had a "Pontiac" style part number on it? Thought I have had a couple of cross-ram intakes over the years with a cast Part Number on them. Tom V.
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#19
09-29-2018, 11:45 AM
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Tom,was never listed in a GM print with a GM number.EVEN the over the counter 61-62 2-4 intake had a diff number.The factory intake ended with 991,the M/T catalog intake did not have the 1.There were 100s if not thousands of pontiac M/T X rams made.There is virtually at least one on Ebay all the time.Some have been for sale for month if not years for stupid money.Great eye candy but poor performance.I did not like driving it because it was like driving any 2-4 with solid linkage.Tom
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#20
09-29-2018, 12:27 PM
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The cross ram like yours did not perform well at all. It had severe reversion problems, it did not have a balance tube on it... Tom Wilhite (Derby, Kansas) Built a 64 Catalina here just a few years ago. It was a beautiful car, he has since sold it. I don't remember what exact size the engine was, BUT he had a cross ram intake on that car's engine. THis car did not run 10.0's like his 59 or Sharon's 58, seemed like it was a 12 second ride. I am not knocking your awesome effort with this engine, just trying to be helpful. Tom is a die hard Pontiac enthusiast, his Pontiac knowledge is infinite. He would be willing to talk to you about how this intake performed on his 64 build...
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