[Paul Spotts]

easiest way to buy is from my Ebay listing $59.00 with free shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Hydrauli.../282591309766?

US made !!!!!!! highest quality SAME AS NOS!! Fast and free shipping!
Please look at these lifters closely. Note the bottom of these with extra groove.
If you have lifters without these grooves, they may not be US made!
I found this out the hard way!
These are the best Pontiac and Oldsmobile lifters available.
I've been using these for many years without any problems.
All my Pontiac cam kits include these lifters - see my other auctions
East coast Pontiac engine builder since 1979.

Applications:

All hydraulic flat tappet cams below:


Oldsmobile Engines

260 CID (4.3L) 1975-1982
307 CID (5.0L) 1980-1985
330 CID (5.4L) 1964-1967
350 CID (5.7L) 1968-1980
400 CID (6.6L) 1965-1969
403 CID (6.6L) 1977-1979
425 CID (7.0L) 1965-1967 Except Toronado
455 CID (7.5L) 1968-1976
Pontiac Engines

316 CID (5.2L) 1956
326 CID (5.3L) 1963-1967
347 CID (5.7L) 1957
350 CID (5.7L) 1968-1977 - does not include Chevy and Buick 350!
370 CID (6.1L) 1955-1958
389 CID (6.4L) 1959-1966
400 CID (6.6L) 1967-1979
421 CID (6.9L) 1963-1966
428 CID (7.0L) 1967-1969
455 CID (7.5L) 1970-1976 does not include Buick 455 !

[ponchjoe]

Who in the US is manufacturing lifters besides Hylift-Johnson?

[pgp66]

http://www.elginind.com/ are parts manufacturers in the US. Not sure if these are from them or not though.

[Cardo]

I sent a PM a few days ago asking who the mfgr is, no reply.

[ponyakr]

If the Summit pics are accurate, the Sealed power and Comp Cams lifters have the same grooves. But, I've noticed a few Summit pics that were not correct, for the product advertised.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...w/make/pontiac

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...w/make/pontiac

Advance & Amazon show the same grooves, for the CC lifters, but NOT the Sealed Power. So, I reckin the Summit pic, for the SP lifters is wrong. Don't know exactly what lifters you'd actually get in a box of CC lifters. It has been posted here that CC has changed suppliers a few times.

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.amazon.com/Competition-C.../dp/B000CIOCRC

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/s.../ht951/4734099

Hylift Johnson don't have the lower groove.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PONTIAC-HYDR....c100005.m1851

Rhoads don't have the lower groove. They are said to be modified Hylift Johnson lifters. And, according to the pics, they do look the same on the outside.

https://www.summitracing.com/search/...rder=Ascending

These Howard's lifters also look like the HJ & Rhoads.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Howards-Cams...pXcWlm&vxp=mtr

This is interesting. These Lunati lifters show to have a high groove, and a real snap ring retainer. Don't know if the pic is accurate or not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lunati-71951...VRTO2c&vxp=mtr

The Lunati site does mention the snap ring, but does not show a pic. Rhoads are the only other lifters I've seen with the snap rings.

http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=766&gid=208

This pic shows the snap ring, but no grooves. So, again, don't what you'd get in the box.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361539227662?rmvSB=true

[ponyakr]

"...Who in the US is manufacturing lifters besides Hylift-Johnson?...I sent a PM a few days ago asking who the mfgr is, no reply. "


Anybody have answers to these questions ???


"...Note the bottom of these with extra groove.
If you have lifters without these grooves, they may not be US made!..."

I have never personally seen any lifter with this low groove. So, who else has seen these low groove lifters, and what brand was on the box they came in. ?

Anyhow, if these are good quality lifters, that Spotts price will be hard to beat.

And, while asking lifter questions, here are some more. Anybody use the Lunati lifters I mentioned, which have the snap ring retainers ? Anybody use the Crower Cam Saver lifters ? If so, any problems with either ?

Anybody know exactly what size/type snap rings could be used to replace the flimsy wire, paperclip type retainers, in Pontiac HFT lifters ? I've had 2 Pontiac engines in which the wire clips failed, scattering lifter guts about the lifter valley.

[t money]

There just std Melling JB951 reboxed. Melling lifters an comp 852 an other reboxers. Made by hy lift Johnson factory. But as said Paul's price is hard to beat with the free shipping. PS this is a std hy lift lifter for some other company not there racing lifter they make.

[ponyakr]

Just for kicks, I Googled the subject. This site says there are now 3 USA lifter makers: Delphi, Morel, & Hylift Johnson. They also link a Summit Chevy lifter which shows a low groove. The pic of the Summit Pontiac lifters does not show any grooves. Don't know what you'd get in a box of Summit lifters. Anybody bought some lately ?

http://garage.grumpysperformance.com...lifters.10322/

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...w/make/pontiac

On the Jegs site, they show a pic of the low groove lifters, in the description of CC 852-16 Pontiac lifters. But again, who knows what would come in the box ?

http://www.jegs.com/i/COMP-Cams/249/852-16/10002/-1

This USA made lifter deal seems to be very secretive. It seems that most don't want anybody to know who made the lifters they are selling. I suppose it's a competitive deal, where the big name sellers don't want folks to buy the same lifters they're selling, for a better price somewhere else.

Right now, I don't know where to buy any of the low groove lifters, for a cheaper price than the Spotts $59 shipped price.

How about some USA made LPC lifters ? Hylift Johnson maybe ?

http://www.libertyperformance.com/pr...c-951-r-16.php

http://www.libertyperformance.com/products/lifters.php

I have a lot of lifter questions and very few answers. But, life goes on.

[t money]

Just checking Paul Spotts Ebay web/selling site it all gone HOPE YOU ARE OK PAUL

[ponchjoe]

Originally Posted by t money

Just checking Paul Spotts Ebay web/selling site it all gone HOPE YOU ARE OK PAUL

I emailed him, he's on vacation so he stopped the auctions. All is well.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by t money

There just std Melling JB951 reboxed. Melling lifters an comp 852 an other reboxers. Made by hy lift Johnson factory.
PS this is a std hy lift lifter for some other company .

This is false information. First off Mellings does not manufacture lifters. Secondly the lifter with "the band at the bottom" is not manufactured by Johnson Hy-lift.

[t money]

Paul is right I just reread what I wrote. They are not hylift/top line Johnson lifters there just Johnson lifters. There 2 lifter company's. #1 Johnson #2 Johnson top line that makes the hylift lifters. SORRY ABOUT THAT I no melling does not make lifters as comp std lifters and many others. There Just re boxed lifter by company's