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I am starting the assembly of an all aluminum 510" street engine that might be of interest to some. It is going in a 69 Firebird. It came in about a year ago. Here is a link to the original thread started by the guy working on the car.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=766773 This engine had many issues, from stripped out main cap side bolts because the heli-coils were in crooked, to cracks in the main web, to main caps that were serrated on the sides so they would dig into the register of the block, to cylinder sleeves that were bored .040" off center. Then there was the crooked heli-coil in the deck for one of the head bolts, and the deck that was .060" short! Oh, and don't let me forget about the cement type substance they filled one side of the block with, and the epoxy crud they filled the other side with. The pin bushings had very little clearance, and the rod big end was small, and out of round. Many months later, and lots of work, it's finally ready to build. This engine will be dynoed in the next couple weeks. Here is a shot of the crud in the rear oil gallery. Remember, this engine was sold as a ready to run short block. ![]() A close up of it. ![]() Here you can see the offset in the boring of these sleeves. ![]() Here are the sleeves after pulling them out. ![]() And the block without them. ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Here we welded up the two stripped out bolt holes to make them solid again.
![]() Ground out, and welded up the crack in the number 2 main web. It was very small. ![]() Getting the block squared up in the mill, getting ready to cut the registers, and oil pan rail. I had to lightly cut the top side of the block[in the four corners] square to the oil pan rail, so we could have the block sit square on the mill table in this position. ![]() Using a dial indicator on the straight bar, to square it up. ![]() ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Next, we used an edge finder to find the edge of the main saddle so we could move an exact amount out to cut the registers a little wider to get rid of the serrations left by the main caps. This also gave us the dimension we needed to cut the width of the main caps after we welded up the sides.
![]() New threaded holes, and re-cut registers. ![]() The area that the main cap seats against had to be re-cut also since they were beat up and dented pretty bad. We cut .005" off. ![]() ![]() Here is the welded up crack repair after I align honed it and it was cut back flush in the mill. ![]() Number 4 main saddle after welding up a hole someone drilled to oil the thrust, then screwed a wood screw into it to plug the hole, then ground it flush. We pulled the screw out, and welded it up, then re-shaped it. ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Here are the main caps after we tig welded up the sides, then cut them to an exact dimension.
![]() ![]() ![]() Here the block is all studded up and align honed. ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Got the new sleeves installed. We downsized the bore from 4.360" as it was when it came in, to 4.250". With a 4.500" stroke, this makes 510.7 cubic inches.
![]() ![]() Kind of out of order, but here is the block being align honed. ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Next, we bored the lifter bores for bushings. Here is the block getting the fixturing setup on it.
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Next I drove in the bushings. We cut an elongated oil hole in them so they would always have oil pressure to the lifters oil band.
![]() You can see the line I scribed on the bushings to indicate where to install them too. You can see it in the blue band. If they go too far, the cam will hit them. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Very Impressive Machime Work Repairs by You.
It was Total Junk before . Dead. Great Job By You ! |
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Then I decked it to 10.175" for a zero deck height.
![]() ![]() Here I am reaming the bushings to get them within .0015" of final size, which I will hone into them. ![]() ![]() Honing them to .0018" clearance. ![]() ![]() ![]() The one on the right has been honed, the one on the left has not. ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Thanks! It's a lot of work but will be worth it in the end. We're thinking 650-700 HP, on pump gas, with a streetable solid roller cam.
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Here are some shots of the crooked head stud hole.
![]() ![]() ![]() So we squared it up in the mill, and bored the hole with an endmill that was smaller than the size we wanted to drill for the thread insert. We did this with an endmill because a drill bit is more likely to follow the crooked hole. The endmill bores the hole straight so we can drill the correct size hole straight. We used a Lock-N-Stitch 1/2"x13 thread insert. These insert are unique in the fact that the threads are curved upwards, so when you tighten them, They pull the parent metal in towards the center, rather than spreading apart, like a conventional thread. They make crack repair pins the same way. ![]() Then we tapped the hole, and installed the insert. ![]() ![]() Now the suds are straight. ![]() ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles Last edited by gtofreek; 02-28-2016 at 01:02 AM. |
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Excellent job Paul, you never cease to amaze me!
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1969 GTO 4spd. Antique Gold/black, gold int. 1969 GTO RAIII 4spd. Verdoro Green/black, black int. 1969 GTO 4spd. Crystal Turquoise, black int. 1970 GTO 4spd VOE Pepper Green, green int. 1967 LeMans 428 Auto. Blue, black int. |
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Thanks Greg! BTW, your car is coming along beautifully!
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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In The Midwest ? I am not too far from Chicago . Downstate. Most Chevy only shops would not have touched that 510 Aluminium Pontiac Block with a 20-foot pole. I have a favorite machinist and he is a long time old friend. Runs a Small Gas & Engine Diesel Machine shop. I have several Factory Pontiac 455's. Getting ready to build one for 2016. |
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I have heard that IA 1 Blocks had quality control issues.
IA2 much better but still must check carefully . I don't need IA2 right now. Be nice someday. I like Cast Iron. Aluminium just too Exotic and expensive for me. |
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Honed the block with a torque plate. Sorry the photo is blurry. The hone was running when I took this, so I guess the camera couldn't decide what to focus on.
![]() ![]() The cylinder on the right has been plateau honed, the cylinder on the right has not been yet. ![]() The front of this block looked really crappy. I could not stand it, so I took a Scotchbrite pad on a flat steel block, and scrabbed it clean, and gave it a nice swirl finish. Looks much better now. Guess I should have got a pic of it before, but I didn't think about it. ![]() Done and awaiting cam bearings, and to go on the engine stand. ![]() ![]() On the stand and ready to be built. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Except for the weight, cast iron is much better for an engine block than aluminum.
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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That Pontiac Guy will be very Happy with his 510 ci Poncho.
Your in Arizona. To Far for me to drive to on a Saturday . Crap. Tuscon. The Inlaws are there too. |
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I was involved heavily till 2011-2012. $ 20,000 -100,000 K engines on 1/4 mile high banked Oval Clay dirt track. Chicago dirt track guys run here too. Big payouts & $10-20K Races paydays. Aluminium engines SBC commen place. Once in a while Pontiac V8 on Dirt yet. Byron. Joliet Route 66. Cordova Il. 1/4 Mile all 1 hour away each. |
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