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any body run or have run a crane fireball h 294b cam. 294/304 .488/.508
have a 421 4 speed or maybe a 400. just wondering if it a good go fast cam
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Yes, one of the best street performance cams ever! IMO
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What I am going with in my 64 GTO tri power 389 project.
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1963 Cat SD Clone (old school) streeter 1964 GTO post coupe, tripower, 4speed (build) 1965 GTO 389 tripower, 4 speed, driver 1966 GTO dragcar 1966 GTO Ragtop 1969 Tempest ET clone street/strip 1969 GTO Judge RA lll, auto 1969 GTO limelight Conv. 4speed go and show (sold) 1970 GP SSJ 1970 GTO barn find..TLB…390 horse?….yeh, 390 1972 GTO 455 HO, 4 speed, (build) 1973 Grand Safari wagon, 700hp stoplight sleeper 525ci DCI & 609ci LM V head builds |
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What are the .050 numbers?
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I bought a used engine that supposedly had a crane fireball cam in it back in the seventies. It was a 400 with a torker intake. That thing didn't have much off idle, but up above about 4000 it pulled hard.
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1969 Firebird, Tx3-455/468 machined by CVMS E-heads by Dave Wilcox/Comp Cams 300B-6 flat solid 850DP on E-85 by Eric Niefert/T2 1" plastic spacer T-400/PTC 4000/390's/30x9 Hoosier radial slicks,#3400 1.38 60' 6.32 @ 108 MPH at Northeast Dragway NC 5/23/15 (9th pass on new engine) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ePCu2v...ature=youtu.be 1.37 60' 6.26 @ 109 half track, 9.86 @ 136 1/4 mile, #3350 11/26/16 at Richmond Dragway (125th pass on new engine) |
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This may sound sad to some, but have had the same cam in my street 69' F-Bird for ~ 30 years (put in 85' I think). Runs 11.60's @ 117.
I feel there is more room to optimize to achieve a lower ET if / when I get off my duff.
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I don't know your combination but I don't think 11.6 @ 117 sounds bad at all. There are a lot of guys going slower with hydraulic rollers.
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Is this cam from the Fireball Roberts era? Or just marketing?
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Bull Nose Formula-461, 6x-4, Q-jet, HEI, TH400, 8.5 3.08, superslowjunk |
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I recall the 294 B was desired over the 294 A.
In the 80's I got a used 294 B and with 1.5s, and a Torker I, it ran okay in my 428 TH400 & 3.90/4.11 rear. Next step was the ISKY Magnum 320 HYD with 252/252 @ .050 : what an amazing full range cam on the 428 @ 455. I attributed the amazements to the 104 LCs. Tried customizing a couple Ultradynes with 104 LCs. And installed with 4 deg adv. --> Does anybody run Street/Strip with 104 LCs? Last High-Compression step was the Lunati 30705 (SPC2-320) with 245/255 @ : best off-idle I've felt on the 455 ran 11.0 ET, 123 MPH with ported D-port iron. Simply the best off-idle, cleanest plugs, temps, manners, performance from my efforts. Other folks have their favorites, perhaps same or better, maybe worse. Since gone to low compression & cam in Sig with last outings showing 12.2ET in 3850 Lb on 89 Octane. ![]()
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12.24/111.6MPH/1.76 60'/28"/3.54:1/SP-TH400/469 R96A/236-244-112LC/1050&TorkerI//3850Lbs//15MPG/89oct Sold 2003: 12.00/112MPH/1.61 60'/26"x3.31:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Q-Jet-Torker/3650Lbs//18MPG 94oct Sold 1994: 11.00/123MPH/1.50 60'/29.5"x4.10:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Dual600s-Wenzler/3250Lbs//94oct |
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I used a Crane Fireball cam in a 1979 Trans Am a 400 4 speed with a street dominator Holley intake 750 Holley carburetor 4:11 rear headman headers car had a great rump to it and ran 11:70's and could drive it any where
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That series of cams was developed in the late 1960's early 1970's. I think Fireball Roberts had met an untimely end in a Ford Stock Car a few years earlier. Not a bad cam choice. Much better stuff was devevoped by Harold Brookshire around the same time. If you have good heads, it would benefit from some additional rocker arm ratio from a 1.5. If you already have one, I would run it.
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Nice cam in a 455, it will also like at least 10 to 1 compression.
I've known several folks to use that cam in 455 builds with well prepared iron heads, and all of them ran well into the 11's with their cars...........Cliff
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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a Veteran! https://cliffshighperformance.com/ 73 Ventura, SOLD 455, 3740lbs, 11.30's at 120mph, 1977 Pontiac Q-jet, HO intake, HEI, 10" converter, 3.42 gears, DOT's, 7.20's at 96mph and still WAY under the roll bar rule. Best ET to date 7.18 at 97MPH (1/8th mile), |
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Those specs sound very similar to the current Crane HIT 284281 I have in my 455.
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I loved the old Fireball in my 69 Judge. Back in the early 80's nobody could get past me. If I could find another one I'd use it again.
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Jack Ferris RestoRacing LLC www.restoracing.com Sandy, UT --------------------------------------------------- |
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