[highrisk]

Anybody recognize these wheels and know who makes them? I really like their looks and was wanting to do a little research on them but I have had no luck figuring out who makes them.
Thanks,
Dale

[1967SC]

Maybe Rocket Wheels

[highrisk]

I will check them,
Thanks,
Dale

Originally Posted by 1967SC

Maybe Rocket Wheels

[indymanjoe]

I cant find the pics i saved but they look like a wheel made by VOXX to me.I seen a set on a 57chevy and the guy emailed me the info,which i cant find either.Just thankfull i remember the name.lol

[goathead455]

http://www.cragarwheel.com/products1...torRWDPolished

[tolerico]

Intro Wheels makes one like that.

See this:

http://www.introwheels.com/product/cherokee/

Used to be called the 'Vista' style by Intro Wheel I think.


Or it could be a Boyd Coddington rim. They have that cut wheel called the Two-Tone:


http://www.boydcoddingtonusa.com/whe...ngton-two-tone

[highrisk]

Looking at the signature on the center cap it matches the signature on the Boyd Coddington website which means they are the Two Tone rims at a whopping $665 each, and that is on sale. The Intro Wheels Vista Exposed 5's are very similar at $450 each. I think I will keep looking. Nice wheels though.
I have looked at the Cragar Eliminator 500 wheels and I like them a lot but their 17x8 only come with a 4.5" backspace. Once I get my car back I will have to do some detailed measuring and see if that would work with the tires I have chosen, but it will be very close.

American Racing also has a wheel I like a lot called the BLVD which looks a lot like the Intro Cherokee and it comes in chrome, but the same problem as the Cragar it only has a 4.5" backspace. http://www.americanracing.com/wheels/VN805/VN8052

Thanks for all the help figuring out what wheels these are, just a little, more like a lot, too rich for my blood.

Hope everyone had a great Christmas.

Dale

[HJones1313]

Looks almost identical to Hurst rims to me.

[1967SC]

The more I look @ them,they look like the Coddington Wheels in the post below.
The Cragar wheels look like a pretty good match,probably much less expensive too.

[tolerico]

The new HURST DAZZLER is a cheaper option that is cool:


http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/hurst-wheels.jsp



But only come in gold or black inserts I think.

[tolerico]

By the way, 4.5" backspace is what fits best on a stock '65 GTO.

Front(and rear) you could run 17x8 with 4.5" b/s .... but rear could be 17x9 with 5" (zero offset) rims.

[highrisk]

Actually my car is not stock. I have added a 4 wheel disc brake conversion and the rearend is a heavy duty rear out of a 69 Buick GS/400 which is a little wider. I am hoping that 17x8 with 4.5" BS will still work on the rear because the wheels I like only come with a 0 offset. If those don't work the Rev Classic 100C comes in a 17x8 with a 5".
I just saw that pictures and liked the wheels and wanted to know what they were so I could get some information on them. Way too expensive.
Thanks,
Dale

Originally Posted by tolerico

By the way, 4.5" backspace is what fits best on a stock '65 GTO.

Front(and rear) you could run 17x8 with 4.5" b/s .... but rear could be 17x9 with 5" (zero offset) rims.

[Chris65LeMans]

Originally Posted by highrisk

Once I get my car back I will have to do some detailed measuring and see if that would work with the tires I have chosen, but it will be very close.

That's what will work best. Your rear end, brakes, and rim selections are all variables that can screw up any formula. In my case (disk brakes and '65 Chevelle 12 bolt), I decided that 15 X 8" with 4.5" of backspace will work with 255/60's. I couldn't find 8" in the style I wanted, so I settled for 7" wides. Even after checking the math three times, I was still crossing my fingers as they mounted the tires.

[highrisk]

I do really like the new Hurst Dazzler wheel but I wish they offered them in chrome or polished. I think they are missing a big part of the market offering them only in black or gold.
Dale

Originally Posted by tolerico

The new HURST DAZZLER is a cheaper option that is cool:


http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/hurst-wheels.jsp



But only come in gold or black inserts I think.

[highrisk]

How much room did you have with the outside of the tire and the fender? Your tire selection is taller and wider than what I am planning. I also have the disc brakes and my rearend might be a little wider than yours. I don't know how wide a 65 Chevy rear is but mine is a 69 Buick which is wider than what the 65 Pontiac came with. What is the backspace of your 15x7s? The 15x8s with the 4.5"BS has a 0 offset. If you got 255/60/15s to work with your setup and 0 offset then I will be fine.
Thanks for the information,
Dale

Originally Posted by Chris65LeMans

That's what will work best. Your rear end, brakes, and rim selections are all variables that can screw up any formula. In my case (disk brakes and '65 Chevelle 12 bolt), I decided that 15 X 8" with 4.5" of backspace will work with 255/60's. I couldn't find 8" in the style I wanted, so I settled for 7" wides. Even after checking the math three times, I was still crossing my fingers as they mounted the tires.

[Chris65LeMans]

Originally Posted by highrisk

How much room did you have with the outside of the tire and the fender? Your tire selection is taller and wider than what I am planning. I also have the disc brakes and my rearend might be a little wider than yours. I don't know how wide a 65 Chevy rear is but mine is a 69 Buick which is wider than what the 65 Pontiac came with. What is the backspace of your 15x7s? The 15x8s with the 4.5"BS has a 0 offset. If you got 255/60/15s to work with your setup and 0 offset then I will be fine.
Thanks for the information,
Dale

I picked a '65 12 bolt because it's the same width as the '65 Pontiac 10 bolt that I replaced. (later years are wider.) That's before I added the disk brakes - I don't know if those made it wider or not. My rear wheels have 3.75" of backspace (I just checked - my memory had told me 4.5") , so with a 7" wheel, that's 3.25" going out. If I had gotten 8" ones with the 4.5" back space, that would have meant 3.5" sticking out, which might have been pretty close.

None of this means anything to you, though; because you have a different rear end, which is probably wider than mine, and you've made it still wider by adding disk brakes. Good luck.

[highrisk]

I have pretty much narrowed it down to two different wheels. If I can get by with a 17x8 with a 4.5"BS then my first choice is the American Racing BLVD in chrome. If I need a deeper backspace then the second choice is the Rev Classic 100 in chrome with a 5"BS. If I need more backspace then that then I might consider the Billet Specialties Rival polished which you can have custom made up to 5.5"BS. The blue Chevelle has the Amer Rac wheels and the red Chevelle has the Rev Classic wheels. The tires I am looking at will have a sidewall of 4.75" which should be enough to keep it looking right. I think any of these wheels in a 17" will still have that old school look.
I had been thinking of the Cragar Eliminator 500 in chrome until I saw them in a 17" and I did not like them as well as the 15". They just didn't look right to me. The other blue car is the Cragar Eliminator in 17".
Dale

[b-man]

You'd better plan on more than 4.5" of backspace on a 17X8" wheel in the rear.

My Tempest had that size wheel and the 4.5" backspace (zero offset) in the rear and there wasn't a lot of room left towards the outside even when using a fairly small 235/45-17. Plenty of room inside for deeper backspacing.

My rear end pulled the wheel in by 1/2" compared to your rear end because it was the narrow early A-body rear. Add the thicker disc brake rotor you're using and you're probably close to 3/4" wider per side.

A 17X8" wheel with 5" of backspace is the absolute minimum you need, and more than that is better if you want to run a good sized tire in the rear. I would go 5.5" backspace, this is the only way you'll have enough room for the tall and wide tires you want to use.

The taller the sidewall the more sidewall bulge you'll have. You're going to need all the clearance you can get if you're going to be using a 50-series tire so don't underestimate the need for deeper backspacing.

Get out the straight edge and measuring tape when you get the car back in your possession.

When it comes to making an expensive wheel purchase measure twice and buy once.

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I have pretty much the same rear end width you have in my Tempest now that I've upgraded the car. I have a '71-'72 Olds/Buick 'corporate' 8.5 10-bolt rear and C6 Z06 Corvette discs now, no more stock 8.2 early narrow rear and drum brakes.

I'm running a 9" wide wheel with 6.57" of backspace to stuff a 275/40-18 tire in there. I will probably run a 1/8" wheel spacer to move the wheel out some because it's a little tight to the inside, so in my case something like a 6.25" backspace would have been close to ideal. The black-painted 18X9" alloy wheels I bought were spec'd for the rear of a BMW Z4 roadster, so hence the 6.57" backspace.

So perhaps you can see that a 17X8" wheel with 5.5" of backspace should be a good fit for your purposes.

Again, measure.

Good luck.

[The Champ]

highrisk

As I posted on your other thread, I have the wider rear ('69 12 bolt) in my '64.

Like you, I'm looking to go to 17's.

Currently running 255/60/15's on 15x7 rims with 4.25 BS. There is NO WAY I could run those same tires on an 8" rim with 4.5"BS.

I know you are looking to run 245/50/17's. I agree with b-man that you will need a minimum of 5" BS on a 17x8 rim.

My current 255/60/15's have a section width of 10.2" and a tread width of 7.6". A 255/50/17 has a section width of 10.4 also, but the tread width goes up to 9" - an increase of 1.4".

Looking at 245's in both 15 and 17 here are the numbers:

245/60/15 - 9.7 and 7.3

245/50/17 - 9.8 and 8.5

All these dimensions are for Diamond Back redline radials - tire dimensions can vary somewhat between manufacturers and even tire models with the same manufacturer. For instance - the numbers above for the 255/50/17 are for Nitto 450's - the same size in the Nitto 555 are 10.4 and 9.5.

Bottom line - you need a minimum of 5" BS on an 8" rim. More would be better.

[highrisk]

Bart and The Champ,

As always thanks for your insight and I completely agree with everything you have said and I actually have thought of these items. I am trying to work this out in my head, and on paper, so when the car comes back I have already did the research and have narrowed down my choices. That is why I have the different choices of the wheels I like from a 4.5"BS to a 5.5"BS. The wheels I like the most are the Amer Rac with only 4.5" then the Rev with 5" then the Billet with up to 5.5". The reason the Billet isn't higher on the list is because of price and they only come in polished. Although they are one of the last remaining wheels that are Made in America and the reviews I have read say the polished wheels are a very bright polish almost like chrome.

So here is my line of thinking; I have changed the tire to a 235/50/17 Pirelli because it is closer to my original choice of 245/60/15 Cooper. The Pirelli is 26.5" tall with a section width of 9.8" and a tread of 8.1". The Cooper's were 26.5" tall, section width 9.5" and tread width of 8". So these tires are very close with the section width of the Pirelli being a little wider. This change in tires size was important for two reasons; the speedometer gear I put in the five speed is set up for a 26.5" tall tire and my 3.36 geared rearend and the Coppers fit with 15x8" wheels with zero offset, although tight. A 255/60/15 Cooper was very close and I was not comfortable with the lack of clearance. The 255/60/15 is wider and taller than the 235/50/17 so I am hoping that it will still fit with a zero offset 17x8. If not then I will go up the choices until I get measurements that I am comfortable with. This all means that the 235/50/17 tires will have 4.9" of tire on the fender side of the offset with 4.5"BS and 4.4" towards the fender with the 5"BS wheels and 3.9" with the 5.5"BS wheels.

One the front I am planning on running a 215/55/17 Pirelli which is 26.5" tall, section width of 9.1, and tread width of 7.8". The original choice was a 215/70/15 Cooper which was 26.6" tall, section width 8.7", and tread width 7.01". So the Pirelli is a little shorter but wider. I don't think the front will have any problems because the car came to me with front tires that were a 15" tire and 27.1" tall and 8.1" wide on zero offset wheels and there were no clearance issues at all. I am planning on using a 17x7" wheel with zero offset.

I also have an alternate plan if I decide I don't want to pay the money for the Billet wheels and the idea of polished instead of chrome. That would be to go with a Continental Pure Contact 225/55/17 on all four corners. I like this idea too because I think these cars look good with all tires being the same size. The Cont are 26.7" tall, section width 9.2", and tread width 8.2". So just a hair taller but more narrow than even the 245/60/15 Cooper's. Actually the tread width is a little wider than the Pirelli 235/50/17 tire so they might actually look just as wide with the section width being .6" narrower. I am hoping the height difference is not enough to affect the speedometer. These tires will have 4.6" of tire on the fender side with 17x7 with 4"BS (zero offset, Amer Rac wheel) and 4.1" with 17x8 with 5"BS (Rev Classic wheel). So these tires should fit easily with my second choice of wheel and might actually work with my first choice. The only problem is a 17x8 is the maximum advertised width for these tires and I am not sure how I like that idea. I always try to get a wheel that is in the middle of the recommended wheel size. What do you guys think of running a tire on the maximum recommended width of a wheel?

So that is what I have came up with so far and now I just need my car back so I can decide which setup I am going to use. Unless one of you know of another wheel I have overlooked that I can get in a 17x8" with a backspace of 5.5" that I can afford and has the look I am after.

I hope you have a great New Years and thanks for all the advice.
Dale