The Body Shop TECH General questions that don't fit in any other forum

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-20-2013, 08:52 AM
1967Tempest's Avatar
1967Tempest 1967Tempest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 3,019
Send a message via MSN to 1967Tempest
Default Window clip stud repair

I will be starting a new project very soon. Some of the windows have the suds rotted out that hold the clips for the molding in.

Do they make a 18GA piece of sheet metal with a bunch of the studs on it that you can cut out and weld into place?

What fixes are there?

Thanks
Dave

__________________
1967 Pontiac Tempest 2dr HRDTP Coupe 468 C.I. 500 HP 5 speed = FUN!!!
1990 Chevy Suburban R2500 Daily Driver
1986 Volvo DL245 Wagon.. Project car!!!
The Burb Files
  #2  
Old 02-20-2013, 09:04 AM
chrisp chrisp is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: upper dublin Pa.
Posts: 2,944
Default

There is screw on clips available that dose not require a stud , of course you need good steel to attach to .

  #3  
Old 02-20-2013, 09:05 AM
poncho447's Avatar
poncho447 poncho447 is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bay City, Mi. 48706
Posts: 436
Default

PY sells special shouldered screws to take the place of the stud. I have used them and they work fine.

I have never seen a repair strip w/the studs already attached.

  #4  
Old 02-20-2013, 09:14 AM
1967Tempest's Avatar
1967Tempest 1967Tempest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 3,019
Send a message via MSN to 1967Tempest
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by poncho447 View Post
PY sells special shouldered screws to take the place of the stud. I have used them and they work fine.

I have never seen a repair strip w/the studs already attached.

Part number?

Thanks!

__________________
1967 Pontiac Tempest 2dr HRDTP Coupe 468 C.I. 500 HP 5 speed = FUN!!!
1990 Chevy Suburban R2500 Daily Driver
1986 Volvo DL245 Wagon.. Project car!!!
The Burb Files
  #5  
Old 02-20-2013, 09:27 AM
poncho447's Avatar
poncho447 poncho447 is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bay City, Mi. 48706
Posts: 436
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1967Tempest View Post
Part number?

Thanks!
RPF 182S

  #6  
Old 02-20-2013, 09:48 AM
1967Tempest's Avatar
1967Tempest 1967Tempest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 3,019
Send a message via MSN to 1967Tempest
Default

Groovy! Thanks!

Do I repair the window channel and then drill a pilot hole, insert screw than tack weld this in or is the screw good enough by itself?

Thanks again!

Dave

__________________
1967 Pontiac Tempest 2dr HRDTP Coupe 468 C.I. 500 HP 5 speed = FUN!!!
1990 Chevy Suburban R2500 Daily Driver
1986 Volvo DL245 Wagon.. Project car!!!
The Burb Files
  #7  
Old 02-20-2013, 09:51 AM
poncho447's Avatar
poncho447 poncho447 is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Bay City, Mi. 48706
Posts: 436
Default

Repair, drill small pilot hole and the dip screw threads into some sort of epoxy before installing.

  #8  
Old 02-21-2013, 07:39 AM
goatman65's Avatar
goatman65 goatman65 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pa.
Posts: 2,663
Default

I did mine using the screws. I put a bit of drip check sealer on the threads before screwing them in. I thought i had a pic of the screws but can't find it.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	repaint 2012 080.jpg
Views:	135
Size:	42.3 KB
ID:	313856  

  #9  
Old 02-21-2013, 07:52 AM
1967Tempest's Avatar
1967Tempest 1967Tempest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 3,019
Send a message via MSN to 1967Tempest
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goatman65 View Post
I did mine using the screws. I put a bit of drip check sealer on the threads before screwing them in. I thought i had a pic of the screws but can't find it.

So you drilled a pilot hole first.. Remember what size it was? Also there is no "schedule" for the screws. Granted I will space them evenly, but I can have 12 for 30 if I wanted to. Right?

Thanks for the pic!!!

Dave

__________________
1967 Pontiac Tempest 2dr HRDTP Coupe 468 C.I. 500 HP 5 speed = FUN!!!
1990 Chevy Suburban R2500 Daily Driver
1986 Volvo DL245 Wagon.. Project car!!!
The Burb Files
  #10  
Old 02-21-2013, 09:00 AM
goatman65's Avatar
goatman65 goatman65 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pa.
Posts: 2,663
Default

Sorry don't remember the drill size. i just drilled some holes in scrap metal and tried the screws till i found a size that let the screw fit snug. Spacing isn't important and you should be able to use as many as you like. Just be sure to keep them 'close' to the same distance from the edge or the trim won't sit properly against the window.

  #11  
Old 02-21-2013, 09:06 AM
Kokamo Kokamo is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 271
Default

Pic of said screw...



__________________
Good judgement comes from experience.....experience comes from....well....that comes from bad judgement.


Build thread for my poppa ~~> CLICKY CLICKY
  #12  
Old 02-21-2013, 09:10 AM
goatman65's Avatar
goatman65 goatman65 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Pa.
Posts: 2,663
Default

Yep,that be it.

  #13  
Old 02-21-2013, 09:22 AM
Old Goat 67's Avatar
Old Goat 67 Old Goat 67 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: La., 67 GTO, Original Owner
Posts: 6,720
Default

I couldn't remember at the time I did mine, but there were originally many more pins in the bottom rear channel. I only put in six, but it will be rectified.

Unrestored 67 GTO. Sent to me by J V Cox (hottrodd). He sent these to me the day after I put the chrome on and 5 days before Cruisin' the Coast.

Charles
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Bottom.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	58.4 KB
ID:	313864   Click image for larger version

Name:	Right.jpg
Views:	83
Size:	53.1 KB
ID:	313865  

  #14  
Old 02-21-2013, 09:28 AM
1967Tempest's Avatar
1967Tempest 1967Tempest is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 3,019
Send a message via MSN to 1967Tempest
Default

Good points. I think that is a good idea to put more clips closer to the edges..

Thanks!!

Dave

__________________
1967 Pontiac Tempest 2dr HRDTP Coupe 468 C.I. 500 HP 5 speed = FUN!!!
1990 Chevy Suburban R2500 Daily Driver
1986 Volvo DL245 Wagon.. Project car!!!
The Burb Files
  #15  
Old 02-21-2013, 09:50 AM
Old Goat 67's Avatar
Old Goat 67 Old Goat 67 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: La., 67 GTO, Original Owner
Posts: 6,720
Default

They must have put more there to insure window at high speeds with side windows open!

  #16  
Old 03-02-2013, 10:30 PM
1966geeto 1966geeto is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: FLA
Posts: 955
Default

Bought front lower Chanel from Ames had all the studs in it very nice piece.

  #17  
Old 03-05-2013, 03:39 PM
tininjun67's Avatar
tininjun67 tininjun67 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Selma, TX
Posts: 567
Default

I think you can buy the stud and install it with a stud welder also, although not many hobbyists would own a stud welder. When determining what size drill to use for a screw, I eyeball the drill to the shank of the screw. (the small part of the thread) I make sure the drill bit is just slightly smaller than the shank.

  #18  
Old 03-05-2013, 09:14 PM
Cammer-6 Cammer-6 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: central Fla
Posts: 8,511
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tininjun67 View Post
I think you can buy the stud and install it with a stud welder also, although not many hobbyists would own a stud welder. When determining what size drill to use for a screw, I eyeball the drill to the shank of the screw. (the small part of the thread) I make sure the drill bit is just slightly smaller than the shank.
Ive never had good luck using studs and a stud welder.make sure you practice on some scrap if you use one.

__________________
Everything comes and goes
Pleasure moves on too early
And trouble leaves too slow
  #19  
Old 03-05-2013, 10:23 PM
400 4spd.'s Avatar
400 4spd. 400 4spd. is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: Eastern N.C.
Posts: 4,835
Default

Factory spacing on mine is in the 6"-7" range. Just be sure to avoid areas where two moldings join.

  #20  
Old 03-05-2013, 10:55 PM
steve v's Avatar
steve v steve v is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 2,627
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cammer-6 View Post
Ive never had good luck using studs and a stud welder.make sure you practice on some scrap if you use one.
Same here. When I stripped my 71 T-37 30 years ago I wanted to do away w/the side moldings so I ground all of the studs off the doors & 1/4's. 4 years ago I decided to put it back to it's as raced set up so I had to put the studs back on. I have an H & S Uni-Spotter w/the molding stud set up and out of 10 studs welded on 2-3 would literally fall off. It also left a nice low spot at every stud welded on.......that was fun filling those in! Wished I would have just used the screws at that point.

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:41 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017