[pierced mikey]

I hope the mods leave this here, I want more people to see it and act on it. We need people to email our idiots in office to pass this bill. It's basically so you can protect yourself and family in your own house and property. If people could email them for me, we need them to be contacted so that we can get it passed and not have to deal with the b.s. of being sued when some whacked out junkie is trying to rob you. My letter is below and all their emails are beneath that.

Hello,

I hope you all vote the right way on this bill. People need to be able to defend themselves. The police can't be everywhere to stop crimes, only to investigate after the fact except in rare circumstances. This bill IS the difference between life and death for some people, and the criminals need to stop being put over law abiding citizens in this state. We need the protection to know that we aren't going to be sued for protecting our family, our property and ourselves from some junkie with weapons on him(i.e. Anthony McKay in Swampscott). Remember, more people than ever are paying attention to politics, and more people than ever are voting. It's not the criminals that vote you in, and you do work for the taxpayers.

Regards

Mike


Gale.Candaras@masenate.gov; John.Fernandes@mahouse.gov; Patricia.Jehlen@masenate.gov; John.Keenan@masenate.gov; Thomas.McGee@masenate.gov; Richard.Ross@masenate.gov, Colleen.Garry@mahouse.gov; Sean.Curran@mahouse.gov; Carlos.Henriquez@mahouse.gov; Russell.Holmes@mahouse.gov; sheila.harrington@mahouse.gov; Kevin.Murphy@mahouse.gov; Angelo.Puppolo@mahouse.gov; Christopher.Markey@mahouse.gov; Daniel.Winslow@mahouse.gov; Gale.Candaras@masenate.gov; John.Fernandes@mahouse.gov; Patricia.Jehlen@masenate.gov; John.Keenan@masenate.gov; Thomas.McGee@masenate.gov; Richard.Ross@masenate.gov; Colleen.Garry@mahouse.gov; Sean.Curran@mahouse.gov; Carlos.Henriquez@mahouse.gov; Russell.Holmes@mahouse.gov; sheila.harrington@mahouse.gov; Kevin.Murphy@mahouse.gov; Angelo.Puppolo@mahouse.gov; Christopher.Markey@mahouse.gov; Daniel.Winslow@mahouse.gov

[Keith Vrabec]

It is a sad day to realize the need to LEGISLATE protecting yourself in your own home. The fact that trespassers have more rights than the tresspassed makes no sense to me.

[pierced mikey]

I had posted in the CH a couple months ago a story that was going on here. A guy(you can Google Anthony McKay) went outside with his wife and kid and saw a local known junkie breaking into his truck. He confronted him, the junkie had a knife and another weapon on him. Anthony broke the guys jaw. Cops showed up and arrested the junkie. Also told him at the same time that he could press charges on McKay. It was a big deal, the guy I listen to on the radio was going to stage a protest at the courthouse and all. Charges were finally dropped. The criminals have more rights than the law abiding citizens in Mass, including our convoluted gun laws. If you don't have an LTC Class A, but have something less(like you can transport to shoot at the range) and you get caught in the car with the gun not in a lockbox in the trunk, you get arrested for it. If you're not licensed and you have a gun on you the same way, they don't charge you for that. Ugh...

[hurryinhoosier62]

Mikey,

Good luck!! Thank God Connecticut has "castle doctrine". Still, I would much rather be back in Indiana where self-defense is a constitutionally guaranteed right!

[Nomadac]

Indiana passed the Stand Your Ground or Castle Doctrine Law back in 2006 and was signed by Gov. Mitch Daniels.

http://www.usacarry.com/indiana_stan...rine_laws.html

Indiana is a great state for Pro gun laws. Good Luck in Mass. passing it.

[68gtoMN]

This same battle is raging in Minnesota also.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/...140229353.html

The people of the state want this overwhelmingly. Police chiefs (political appointments) do not but the OVERWHELMING majority of regular officers support it.

We're hopeful!

[hurryinhoosier62]

68gtoMN,

We've had that same law in Indiana for years. Our crime associated with firearms problems are with "gang banger" killing each other in the inner cities of Indy,Ft Wayne and Gary!!

[Pontiac Slim]

On the local news up here.. not sure if was in Maine or not but a 28 yr old breaking in a house was confronted by 61 yr old man with a gun.... 28 yr old took off, 61 yr old right behind and fired a warning shot in the air... Bad guy stopped and cops came and arrested him.. Cops then summoned the 61 yrs old for discharging a firearm in town limits and took his gun...????
Tell ya what... na I guess I'd best be calm....
Pontiac Slim
x postal worker, need I say more....

[wytnyt]

Originally Posted by Pontiac Slim

On the local news up here.. not sure if was in Maine or not but a 28 yr old breaking in a house was confronted by 61 yr old man with a gun.... 28 yr old took off, 61 yr old right behind and fired a warning shot in the air... Bad guy stopped and cops came and arrested him.. Cops then summoned the 61 yrs old for discharging a firearm in town limits and took his gun...????
Tell ya what... na I guess I'd best be calm....
Pontiac Slim
x postal worker, need I say more....

the 21 yr old was running AWAY
the old man DID fire a gun unnecessarily so things were properly handled

[pierced mikey]

Originally Posted by wytnyt

the 21 yr old was running AWAY
the old man DID fire a gun unnecessarily so things were properly handled

Yeah, it's definitely a bad thing when the scumbag robber stopped so the cops could catch him. He should have gotten away so he could break into another house

[wytnyt]

Originally Posted by pierced mikey

Yeah, it's definitely a bad thing when the scumbag robber stopped so the cops could catch him. He should have gotten away so he could break into another house

but you cant break the law in order to stop him
too many people seem to forget that little tidbit

[pierced mikey]

Originally Posted by wytnyt

but you cant break the law in order to stop him
too many people seem to forget that little tidbit

Yet, I'm sure if those same cops that summonsed the old man shot a warning shot in the air, you'd be fine with it.

[wytnyt]

Originally Posted by pierced mikey

Yet, I'm sure if those same cops that summonsed the old man shot a warning shot in the air, you'd be fine with it.

if they were following the law then yes i would
the key word is what the law is.
you can if it to death with what if's but the bottom line is you cant break the law in order to enforce or protect.

[pierced mikey]

If the old man broke the law by shooting in thge air to stop the robber, wouldn't the cops be breaking the same law?

[wytnyt]

Originally Posted by pierced mikey

If the old man broke the law by shooting in thge air to stop the robber, wouldn't the cops be breaking the same law?

wouldnt you think that may vary by city,state ect...?
i would like to think that your aware that police have liberties that regular citizens dont,

[pierced mikey]

Originally Posted by wytnyt

wouldnt you think that may vary by city,state ect...?
i would like to think that your aware that police have liberties that regular citizens dont,

I would like to think you are aware they work for us. Oh wait, they can speed when and where they want, with no sirens. They can carry in Mass no problem and get newer guns without having to jump through hoops like we do. Oh yeah, and they can shoot someone or beat someone up that they deem a threat, but we can't. Oh yeah, and they can use a computer while driving, but the ruling class doesn't want us to talk on a cell phone while driving. Because adults can't have a conversation and drive. Yup. Glad everyone on the public payroll has more rights than us.

[wytnyt]

take your bait to someone else,no one is as dumb or naive unless its on purpose,ill give you the benefit of doubt and assume its the latter. .hopefully im right and it is

[pierced mikey]

lol you come into the thread to argue(as you usually do) and then tell me to take the bait somewhere else?

[wytnyt]

Originally Posted by pierced mikey

lol you come into the thread to argue(as you usually do) and then tell me to take the bait somewhere else?

lol hah lol

Originally Posted by wytnyt

the 21 yr old was running AWAY
the old man DID fire a gun unnecessarily so things were properly handled

ok,i simply stated the obvious but of course that isnt whats wanted is it?
if one doesnt agree then im arguing huh?
your the one coming up with this off the wall bull**** like


Oh wait, they can speed when and where they want, with no sirens. They can carry in Mass no problem and get newer guns without having to jump through hoops like we do. Oh yeah, and they can shoot someone or beat someone up that they deem a threat, but we can't. Oh yeah, and they can use a computer while driving

If the old man broke the law by shooting in thge air to stop the robber, wouldn't the cops be breaking the same law?

Yeah, it's definitely a bad thing when the scumbag robber stopped so the cops could catch him. He should have gotten away so he could break into another house

wtf does these whin excuses have to do with what was said.i responded to pontiac slims comment but of course you saw it the way you wanted

it must be a slow night huh but you know?
the 21 yr old was running AWAY
the old man DID fire a gun unnecessarily so things were properly handled
and that is the law cupcake

[pierced mikey]

YOU say it wasn't necessary. Would it have been better if the old man shot the guy instead of a warning shot? Do you think it would have been better if the 21 year old got away? What if the next house he broke into he raped someone? When a legal gun owner stops a crime and protects himself or someone else, he shouldn't get in trouble for it. And my questions weren't off the wall. Cops aren't above the law, even though they act like it sometimes(obviously not all of them, I've known quite a few good ones)