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i am converting my 69 FIREBIRD 4 SPD TO AUTOMATIC, i want to take this car to the track at least once at month, i want to drive it to the track and back...looking for for mid to high 7's et 1/8 mile...this is my combo right now in the car:
PONTIAC 455. 060 TRW'S stock RODS 71 #96 heads, cleaned (intake-exh) and ported matched to r/a felpro gaskets 7/16 rocker studs comp cams #995 springs crower 60211 camshaft 236*-242* at .050, 509-516, 108 lsa th400 trans rebuild with stage II shift kit 12 bolt, 3.55 gears posi, moser axles, 1/2-3 studs STAGE 2 QUADRAJET by jet performance intake manifold is stock but my switch to tomahawk aeromotive fuel pump, 8an fuel line, stock tank with sump my question will be on the TORQUE CONVERTER, CAMSHAFT,since i want to drive it on the street but minimal?--can you recommend any, thanks |
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What is your compression?.......if the heads are not ported, you may be wasting your money on a different cam......what's your rig weigh in at?......you may not need much motor to reach your goal depending on weight........a 3500 + stall is always good..going to depend where you go with cam and such....
....may not want to spin that motor up toooooo high given the heavy slugs and stock rods.....
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71 GTO, 463, KRE 295 cfm heads ported by SD Performance, RPM intake, Qjet, Dougs Headers, Comp cams HR 246/252 ...11 to 1 , 3.55 cogs, 3985lbs.....day three- 11.04 at 120mph ....1.53 60', 6.98 1/8 mile |
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see signature, for performance results vs fuel Octane & weight
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12.24/111.6MPH/1.76 60'/28"/3.54:1/SP-TH400/469 R96A/236-244-112LC/1050&TorkerI//3850Lbs//15MPG/89oct Sold 2003: 12.00/112MPH/1.61 60'/26"x3.31:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Q-Jet-Torker/3650Lbs//18MPG 94oct Sold 1994: 11.00/123MPH/1.50 60'/29.5"x4.10:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Dual600s-Wenzler/3250Lbs//94oct |
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Of those,the Crower solid #60311 would be my #1 choice.
But honestly a slightly bigger solid might be worth considering too. Something like the Comp 290b,or the UD 288/296 solid,or possibly even a custom ground flat tappet solid cam. Converter,lots of choices,PTC,Continental,ATI,among others. Stall,that can be difficult to say for sure till you get something in the car and do some testing,I'd likely start between 3400 to 3800 stall myself,with good efficiency (ie: fairly tight) for decent street manners,and still be ready to go when the converter is flashed hard @ launch. JM2¢ Bret P. |
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What does the car run right now for track times?
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My 12.6 ET was with a LOW Stall Converter & expect very low 12's with the High Stall working now.
My Cam is a Tomahawk grind, from Ace Brewer; darn similar to your Crower item.
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12.24/111.6MPH/1.76 60'/28"/3.54:1/SP-TH400/469 R96A/236-244-112LC/1050&TorkerI//3850Lbs//15MPG/89oct Sold 2003: 12.00/112MPH/1.61 60'/26"x3.31:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Q-Jet-Torker/3650Lbs//18MPG 94oct Sold 1994: 11.00/123MPH/1.50 60'/29.5"x4.10:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Dual600s-Wenzler/3250Lbs//94oct |
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i haven taken the car to the track with the 4 speed,thats why i am swapping th400, i dont like stick shift for racing, i want to run the car with the current 60211 camshaft see what it does, then go from there...my friends has a similar 455 combo with the same cam, he run 8.20 at 87 1/8, that equals to 12.70 et 1/4, with stock suspension all around...
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yes i see, but i think the 112 lsa in your camshaft give it a better torque and broad power band...
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UD 280/280 on a 108 worked really good for me. You'll probably need a bit more spring, though. My motor liked shifting up around 5700-5900 with that cam, about perfect with the custom Hughes (about 3300) and 3.42 gears.
Lee
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'73 T/A (clone). Low budget stock headed 8.3:1 455, 222/242 116lsa .443/.435 cam. FAST Sportsman EFI, 315rwhp/385rwtq on 87 octane. 13.12 @103.2, 1.91 60'. '67 Firebird [sold], ; 11.27 @ 119.61, 7.167 @ 96.07, with UD 280/280 (108LSA/ 109 ICL)solid cam. [1.537, 7.233 @93.61, 11.46 @ 115.4 w/ old UD 288/296 108 hydraulic cam] Feb '05 HPP, home-ported "16" D-ports, dished pistons (pump gas only), 3.42 gears, 275/60 DR's, 750DP, T2, full exhaust |
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Good luck to the new owner of the Ventura II! Sold the car after 13+ years. Look for it on the Hot Rod Power Tour in the future as it's currently being re-configured as a Pro-Touring ride! ![]() |
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I'm running a 276/280-10 solid Ultradyne with a 3500 converter and I am very comfortably in the 12's and scratching for the 11's at 6000ft actual elevation. Cam duration @ .050 243/247 .510/.525 lift with very ported but iron 6X-4 heads.
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1978 T/A 463 Pontiac, KRE 74cc 292CFM D-ports, Lunati VooDoo, V-max lifters, TKII, ATM 850 E85 carb, TCI TH-350 race tranny, 3600 converter 3.73 12 bolt 11.63@116.68mph 1981 T/A 4-speed 406 Pontiac, Merrick ported 6X heads, Comp 270S cam, Crosswind intake 750 Street Demon, 3.42 30 spline Eaton posi street car. 1980 Formula 350 Pontiac back burner project 1972 LeMans 350 Pontiac |
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[QUOTE=71 Ventura II;4551783]If it were me I would start where your at with the engine AND run the 3500 Continental converter. The Jim H. special. Follow Cliff Ruggles older combo. JD[/QUOTE---THAT IS GOING TO BE MY PLAN FOR NOW, GET A CONTINENTAL OR SIMILAR TORQUE CONVERTER, NOT TOO LOOSE AS I PLAN TO DRIVE MY CAR
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1962 Catalina 4100lbs trw 455, iron d-ports,perf RPM, 800holley, 9'' tires,(12.157@108.91)1.578 60' Oct 2010!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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BRENT FLYNN---FOR TRACTION THE CARS IS ALREADY EQUIPPED WITH CALTRAC BARS AND LEAF SPRINGS, KYB 8 POINT ADJUSTABLE REAR SHOCKS AND 3 WAY ADJ. ON THE FRONT, TIRES I MAY GO M/T 275 OR 295-65 15 ON WELDS 15X10-5.5 BS, NO FRAME CONNECTORS.....THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF ANY TRACT PROBLEMS, ON THE CONVERTER NEED TO SAVE MY MONEY TO GET ME A GOOD ONE 3200-3500....THANKS GUYS FOR ALL THE TIPS AND ADVICE
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Sounds like you are headed in the right direction! If you ever put subframe connectors in, you'll be glad you did...
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1962 Catalina 4100lbs trw 455, iron d-ports,perf RPM, 800holley, 9'' tires,(12.157@108.91)1.578 60' Oct 2010!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Jim Hand converter is proven! The car will launch with one for sure
The 295/65 m/t is awesome and will kill a little gear Thats where I would start. |
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