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Are all GM 12 Bolts the same?
My 66 GTO currently has a 12 bolt rear end that matches to a 1972 Chevelle. It’s a 410 ratio, and for years I’ve been wanting to take it down to a 355. I’ve been watching e-bay and have found 2 gears that I am interested in. The first is a Richmond, a brand I’ve heard of, and this is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Richmond-Gea...item5ae2e40b01 If I buy this one, I can add a rebuild kit for about $100. The other is a complete kit with a Motive gear, a brand I am not familiar with. http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-8-875-12-...item3ef3ac743f I know a retired mechanic who said that he would install the gear reasonably. My question is 3-fold. 1. Will these gears fit? 2. Which is the better gear and deal? 3. What do you think reasonable is for installing the gear? Thanks, Dan
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I was under the impression that a 4 series gear set uses a different carrier assembly than a 3 series gear set meaning you would have to change the carrier to go to a 3:55.
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Thanks melwff. I did a little more research after your post, and there are 4:10 gears available for both the 3 and 4 series carriers. So I will have to figure out what carrier I have in there before I proceed. If I'm lucky it will be a 3 series, whereas I can just replace the gear, if not, it will involve a new carrier also.
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Just make sure which carrier you have and the gears fit it. They make a 3.73, 4.10 gear that fits both 3 and 4 series carriers.
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The casting #'s for chevy 12 bolt posi units are,2 series ED32088,3 series 30140PM1,and 4 series EDB30174.
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Thanks A Schab. Where on the differential do I find these casting numbers?
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The EDB xxxxx casting number of oem Eaton posi carrier is on the rh end of the carrier. Or with the posi carrier loose & the carrier setting on a table on its left hand bearing boss, wou will see it on the top.
"174" is the most common 4 series Eaton 12 bolt posi, & will not take a 3.55 gear set, but will take richmond's special thin 3.73 gearset. "140" is the oem Eaton 3 series carrier & will take GM & aftermarket 3.55 gears. Most well used Eaton posi carriers will need side gears & spiders replaced, always something to consider.
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I've owned 2,3,4 series 12-Bolt Posi's & the Strange 12-Bolt 4-series Spool.
Also, used a 2-3series spacer. I'm sick of 12-bolt rears. I'm impressed with the Big Car (Impala, Kingswood estate) 12-bolt posi, and the Dana-60. Big Car 12-Bolt is capable of Highway gears whereas Dana-60 is not. My point: Strange Engineering will drop-ship a 3.54:1 Dana-60 with Pro-posi&35spline axles, 1350U-Joint, & chrome cover to your garage door for $2100 or so. Last edited by Half-Inch Stud; 10-27-2011 at 08:06 AM. |
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Good info HIS. I've got that much invested in my 8.5 ten bolt. Next time I blow it up, I'll be shopping for something a LOT stronger that I can just bolt in.....Cliff
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Dan Debones152;
Stock GM 3.55 gears on the original posi are probably what you could aim for. One more idea: The 8.8 Lincoln Continental (Mark 6-7?) Disc-Brake rear may bolt-right-in to the 66 GTO , and be axle-axle width compatible. 8.8 rears look quite like a 10Bolt, disc-brakes usually 3.27 posi, have 5"pattern and...............Half-Inch Studs |
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