[Wakepowell]

I need a little help reading the cowl tag on my ’70 GTO. I have owned the car for 25 years and was wondering about the actual build date. Here is what the cowl tag reads:

ST70 27237 OS591681 BDY
TR 250 282A PNT
8A D55M20

I know that 250=Blue Interior and that 28=Atoll Blue. Is 2A the build date, 1st week of February or black vinyl top? Is the build date 8A, 1st week of August?

I thought the D55M20 was interesting too. I believe the D55=bucket seat console and M20=4-speed wide ratio transmission.

I am going to order the PHS documentation next week but thought I would ask here to see if I could get some insight on my Oshawa built GTO. Thanks

[CDN2PLS2]

Call Oshawa not PHS. I think the build will be Aug.If it had vinyl top tag would show CO8

[johnta1]

Are you sure the 2A isn't 28?

Does your car have vinyl top?

[Kitch428m21]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't ST70 24237 make it a GTO?
Mine still has the blue tag on the drivers door jam to say the build date. Is yours gone?

[OhMyGoat]

24237 would make it a GTO. Double check the tag. Your post says 27237 and I do not see the build date which should be between your trim code (blue) and your paint code. There appears to be something wrong...maybe they're just typos. I agree that 2A is likely 28 if it is Atoll blue hardtop. See the following link that is helpful.

http://www.gtoalley.com/seventy.html

[Held for Ransom]

Build date is probably read incorrectly too. My guess is 9A (not 8A) and VIN is around 2423701101***-102***.

[Wakepowell]

I’ve double checked the cowl tag and the information is exactly as shown below (I missed typed a 7 above see underlined correction).

ST70 24237 OS591681 BDY
TR 250 282A PNT
8A D55M20

When I bought the car it had a white vinyl top and “400” emblems on the hood scoops similar to the firebird 400 hood emblems. The car had been repainted once prior to me owning the car but the vinyl top appeared to be original but it could have been added.

If the build date is 9A I think it would make it a very late 1970 model (1st week of August 1970). How do I obtain the Oshawa information?

Thanks for the help

[Held for Ransom]

Body number is too low to be a late build car.

General Motors of Canada Limited 1-800-263-3777
George J. Zapora

[Wakepowell]

Held for Ransom- I appologize for missing your post regarding the vin. How can I tell the production number of my car from the vin? Without disclosing my entire vin here it is with a few digits missing 24237011002##.

Thanks for the General Motors of Canada Limited information. Is there service similar to PHS?

[Held for Ransom]

I don't know when they actually started production, especially in Canada. But yours is an early, early build. Just can't believe they started early August, before the Pontiac cars.

[CDN2PLS2]

That's earlier than any of the Oshawa sheets I have.

[Wakepowell]

I faxed my information to PHS today and called General Motors of Canada. When I get the information I will share it with you guys. I take it from Held for Ransom's response that the vin indicates an early build date. 1st week of August 1969 seems extremly early to me so there may be an error in the cowl tag stamping. My Judge is an October 1969 Pontiac built car and I thought that was early.

The car is nothing special I've just owned it for a long time and am contemplating restoring it.

[Wakepowell]

I received my PHS information today and it is an early build Oshawa car. The build date of 8A, 1st week of August 1969 is correct. Here are some other dates on the PHS, Date Shipped 8/30/69, Date of Execution 9/18/69 and Date of Draft 10/8/69. There is a note on the bottom of the PHS reading “CONSIGNED UNDER BULLETIN AGREEMENT DATED AUGUST 4, 1969” any idea what this means?
The colors are E1, Atoll Blue with White Vinyl Top. It’s strange that the cowl tag does not read the same.

[Held for Ransom]

How can you tell the build date of 8A is correct? I would think the tag should be reading 8D. And, the paint code should be reading 28 A.

[Wakepowell]

“How can you tell the build date of 8A is correct?” – Well, I made an assumption that if the car shipped on 8/30/69 it was built some time prior to that. Is three to four weeks too long for a production car to sit at the plant prior to shipping? I do not know. There are other “errors” on the cowl such as the paint code reading 282A instead of 28A so maybe the build date is also a mistake.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Wakepowell

I received my PHS information today....

a) Did you pursue the GM of Canada information as well? How did that compare to the PHS info?

b) How did the PHS option content compare to what's on the cowl tag?

The reason I ask is I just ran the PHS info on a '65 "GTO" shell that I was interested in. Turns out the cowl tag did not match the VIN; the tag was for a gold/gold GTO but the VIN was for a red/black Lemans. We believe the car was stolen back in the day and the VIN swapped in order to get a clean title. Naturally, I would not wish that on anybody...

Thanks and good luck -

K

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Oshawa built 70 GTO's are cool.

GM of Canada archive may tell build date. It's a Better Report, and has Engine Unit Number.
And as mentioned you may find a dated blue decal in driver side door jamb.

D55 is Console and M20 is Wide 4spd. They coded their cowl tags that way for Fisher body operations. Judges even had WT1 and D80 codes punched.

282A was probably a punch operator error that day.

Here is another early 70 GTO (Vert) that also has the August 4, 1969 Consignment Agreement notation listed. I think that meant it was a pre-faced/pre-accepted dealer order which was held until production began.

Normally - car shipped within days of being built.

[scott70]

Heres some info on my 70 gto back when you could call pontiac 1 800 # and get this stuff for free.It oshawa built but the paper work doesnt have some of the wording yours does.All my engine dates are either oct or nov. of 69'.If I called gm of canada,would i just get the same info i already have??

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Here is a recent GM of Canada report for a 70 WT7 Judge. (2 pages)

Shows car was built Jan.19 and shipped Jan.24

Lists build date, and Engine Unit Number from block (factory stamped above block code). Also lists the no-cost WT7 option which would not show up on a PHS Invoice.

If I had to choose between PHS and GM Canada report on a Canadian built car, the GM Canada report is clearly the better documentation for several reasons. However, it would be nice to have them both.

Scott70 - is your GTO Turquoise with Saddle interior ? Your cowl tag should have M21 code stamped.

[Lloyd-TX]

BVZ - it appears that there might be some mis-information on page 2.
WT1 option includes a 335 HP 455 LS5 - in 1970?

NOT!

Great info on those GM of Canada docs, though. Among other things, that EUN is the holy grail.