[JohnnyHorsepower]

looking at this car for my brother, tag looks good to me.
Any opinions or decoding appreciated.

thanks john

[JimFB400HO]

http://firstgenfirebird.org/firebird/btag_app.mv

[JohnnyHorsepower]

thanks, that was a big help. I had forgotten about that site.
Tag checked out.
the rivots look original; agreed?

[JohnnyHorsepower]

Ok, so i finaly got to my TA. I copied down the tag. It reads as follows.

ST69 22337 NOR XXXXXX(bodyunit #=Xs)

TR 200 50 50

08E D80


So i can decode everything except the D80. Any ideas?

Car is built 5th week august
cameo white/ blue guts

but what is D80

[dxeven]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHorsepower

Ok, so i finaly got to my TA. I copied down the tag. It reads as follows.

ST69 22337 NOR XXXXXX(bodyunit #=Xs)

TR 200 50 50

08E D80


So i can decode everything except the D80. Any ideas?

Car is built 5th week august
cameo white/ blue guts

but what is D80

D80 is the rear spoiler code

[JohnnyHorsepower]

I knew D80 was A rear spoiler code on other stuff, but why is it on the cowl tag?
that is what confused me.

thanks for the quick response.

JOHN

[Cammer-6]

because the body was different from Fisher
paint code 50/50 is correct for TA
5th week in Aug(very late)

[JohnnyHorsepower]

Originally Posted by Cammer-6

because the body was different from Fisher
paint code 50/50 is correct for TA
5th week in Aug(very late)

So, last week in Aug is late?
When did they build the 69 model year?
What would be the earliest build?

I know 50/50 is correct but why D80 spoiler on the cowl tag.

Thanks,

JOHN

[Bjorn]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHorsepower

So, last week in Aug is late?
When did they build the 69 model year?
What would be the earliest build?

I know 50/50 is correct but why D80 spoiler on the cowl tag.

Thanks,

JOHN

awaiting the old answers....the 'oldtimers' know what I mean...this has been "hashed" before... ...usually not a pretty subject...lol

[Kurt S]

D80 told Fisher that the decklid had to be pierced for a spoiler.
69 went long, 11A was the last week.

[Cammer-6]

Originally Posted by Kurt S

D80 told Fisher that the decklid had to be pierced for a spoiler.
69 went long, 11A was the last week.

I think hes thinking thats a Aug 68 build but for a TA that wasnt made in 68

So the Aug date would be 69 and yes that is a late production TA.
Also going along with what Kurt said the 69 model year was extended
(now we would call that enhanced) due to the 70.5 being introduced in 1970 instead of 1969.

[JohnnyHorsepower]

Originally Posted by Cammer-6

I think hes thinking thats a Aug 68 build but for a TA that wasnt made in 68

So the Aug date would be 69 and yes that is a late production TA.
Also going along with what Kurt said the 69 model year was extended
(now we would call that enhanced) due to the 70.5 being introduced in 1970 instead of 1969.

When did they start making 69 models. I thought they started in late 68? That is why i was unsure.

thanks for the help.

JOHN

[Bjorn]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHorsepower

When did they start making 69 models. I thought they started in late 68? That is why i was unsure.

thanks for the help.

JOHN

not sure when they started , but mine is an "early" 69, made in 4th week of october 68 ,shipped 10/24...and its not one of the very earliest 69`s...

[Kurt S]

As stated, this is a Aug 69 (late) car. http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany gives the production months (and volumes).
There's a chance that I may be able to get the same info for F-bird.

[Cammer-6]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHorsepower

When did they start making 69 models. I thought they started in late 68? That is why i was unsure.

thanks for the help.

JOHN

Again there were no TAs built in 1968.
The TA was introduced in March of 69
therefore your car could only be built Aug 69

[JohnnyHorsepower]

Originally Posted by Kurt S

As stated, this is a Aug 69 (late) car. http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#HowMany gives the production months (and volumes).
There's a chance that I may be able to get the same info for F-bird.

Acording to your camaro link, production was from august to july. that makes me think that my car is early. my vin is 1104XX if that helps.

Here is your link's FAQ

"Q: [05-Jan-2004] Update: Why is there a difference between the car model year and the calendar year?

A: The automotive industry typically used (and generally still does) a model year that is offset from the calendar year. Sales dates for a car model typically start in September of the prior year and end the following August. Production start/stop dates are generally a month before the sales start/stop dates. For instance, the 1967 Camaro was built from August of 1966 through July of 1967. If a 1967 Camaro has a cowl tag date of 12A (indicating that the build month and week were December/first-week), then the car was built in December of 1966 (not December of 1967). A production gap of a couple of weeks between the end of one year and the start of the next was common, and used to changeover the plant for the next model year"

[JohnnyHorsepower]

Originally Posted by Cammer-6

Again there were no TAs built in 1968.
The TA was introduced in March of 69
therefore your car could only be built Aug 69

Thanks cammer, and all who are replying. so you know that none of the trans ams began production until 69. However, firebirds could have a late 68 build.?.?

I think everyone is right and it is a late car, aug of 69. I just like to learn.

John

[Kurt S]

Look again at that table. Notice how the 69 model year continued thru Nov 69?

NOR didn't even start Firebird production til April 69. And the VIN lines up with August 69 too.