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Aluminium rods for the street?
Whats the word on this......Can it be done. Is it suggested? If so, what brand is everyone using and where are they getting them? How much?
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whoa, you cant run those on the street....hahaha
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I have them in my 390CI RA V engine and just put a set in my new 366 engine.BME is what im running.Tom
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I know several people that run aluminum rods on the street, 2 of them use BME. Not sure how long they last or anything like that though.
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I like the idea; for keeping the Slug cooler by pulling heat from the piston pin.
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I ran BME's for a limited time on the street before making the car "race only". Charlie Baesch ran a set of those funky old "Super Rods" for 7 years in his GTO on the street, beating the hell out of them, and they never failed (and in my opnion, they were no where near as good of a rod as a BME is today). Just don't put any load on the engine until the oil temperature is up near operating temperature.
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sweet, but what about the clearance to the block, is there a bunch of grinding needed?
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Hey Brian,
What is Charlie up to these days? I would see him at some of the nostaligia meets. Does he still have the black 4 speed GTO? |
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My question is:
What are the advantages of running an aluminum rod on the street? Let's talk about weight, strength, longevity, price... |
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Good topic. Just picked up my 4.5 forged crank from BOP and thinking of running aluminum rods in my 535 for the street.
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One of the advantages is when you take them out of your race car you can build a good street motor with them. I have a set of BME's I'm planning on doing that with now. I also have a shortblock I bought a while back thats got SuperRods in it. I wasn't sure just what to do with them but I may put them in a street motor as well. I don't remember much about the SuperRods.
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lets say i whant to put a pump gas 4.25 stroke 500+ cubic inch engine with750/800 hp 670 lbs feet of torque in mij 69 gto to be used as a auto cross/cirquit racer that is going to runn the cannonball race europe as wel and is going to be used as a showoff weekend evening cruiser/warrior.. howlong with these BMR rods last!!!..........
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how much weight savings are there? what does a aluminum rod weigh?
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Ballpark weight savings is going to be about 1/3rd I think (meaning the alloomey rods are about 2/3 the weight of steel). I think. Lighter mass is always a good thing, especially for a long stroke crank (4.25") in a factory block. Not sure I would use them on a road race car.
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I've been thinking about this very subject lately. My current combination going together is a 505ci IA2, AP 4.25" forged crank, 6.8" Crower rods, and Ross pistons. Lately I've been thinking about switching to an aluminum rod since I plan on spinning it up near 6,800 - 7,100 when racing...Plus adding a little nitrous from time to time.
If I do switch, now would be the time to do it since I've changed to a forged crank and need to re-balance everything anyway. Anyone want to try and convince me either way?
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rods
I ran alum rods in all my supercharged street cars back in the 70's in Buena Park Calif. including mt's spun some by not letting enough engine heat build up. Never bkoke any and I ran 22% over on my pontiac engines. Street raced some one every day . Belonged to orig Street Freaks for awhile. Had a 32 3 window coupe supercharged then. Did a fantastic burn out in orange county parking lot while the race was going on. People were hanging over the bleachers to see who was making all the smoke and noise. Some calif. racers may remember. Can run alum rods on street but they must get at least 1160-180 before nailing it. Todays rods may not need as much heat. Hope this helps you make up your mind. hotchief
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Last edited by roadrage david; 06-13-2007 at 01:09 AM. |
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