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View Poll Results: Cubic Inch Displacement/Engine Size | |||
455 | 114 | 34.65% | |
428 | 27 | 8.21% | |
421 | 11 | 3.34% | |
400 | 67 | 20.36% | |
400 with stroker crank | 61 | 18.54% | |
389 | 12 | 3.65% | |
350 | 10 | 3.04% | |
326 | 3 | 0.91% | |
301 | 2 | 0.61% | |
Aftermarket block | 22 | 6.69% | |
Voters: 329. You may not vote on this poll |
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#21
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I am going from 350 to my new 455. It will be replaced with a bigger stroke and bore during the next rebuild. It's a virgin bore 455 so there is room for an overbore and 4.5 stroke later on.
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So what, you running Mopars now? LOL!
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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My GTO with a 428
When I was a teen, I loved to watch the big 421 Cat's do in the 406/427 Fords and 409 Chev's. I always wanted a 421.
Call it a 428, to me it's my 421 with an over bore!
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I got totally ticked off at the magazine writers in 1974 for killing the GTO for not having a 7456 displacement engine. So I set out to see what a Pontiac 350 could do. And will confess to probably having more HP than I really need.........but ain't it fun
Jon
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"Good carburetion is fuelish hot air". "The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one given to you by your neighbor". If you truly believe that "one size fits all" try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! Owner of The Carburetor Shop, LLC (of Missouri). Current caretaker of the remains of Stromberg Caburetor, and custodian of the existing Carter and Kingston carburetor drawings. |
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Maybe it's just me, but ??????
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
#26
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7456ccs = 455 cubes.
Kind of disappointing that the '73 -'74 455 SD didn't make it into GTOs.
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 |
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OK, that makes sense. I wasn't thinking metric here!
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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Sorry - just having a little fun.
Jon.
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"Good carburetion is fuelish hot air". "The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one given to you by your neighbor". If you truly believe that "one size fits all" try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! Owner of The Carburetor Shop, LLC (of Missouri). Current caretaker of the remains of Stromberg Caburetor, and custodian of the existing Carter and Kingston carburetor drawings. |
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Quote:
Jon.
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"Good carburetion is fuelish hot air". "The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one given to you by your neighbor". If you truly believe that "one size fits all" try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! Owner of The Carburetor Shop, LLC (of Missouri). Current caretaker of the remains of Stromberg Caburetor, and custodian of the existing Carter and Kingston carburetor drawings. |
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301 & 400 in the street cars
350 & 455 in the race cars/projects
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Johnny US Army Retired 1978 T/A 463 Pontiac, KRE 74cc 292CFM D-ports, Lunati VooDoo, V-max lifters, TKII, ATM 850 E85 carb, TCI TH-350 race tranny, 3600 converter 3.73 12 bolt 11.63@116.68mph 1981 T/A 4-speed 406 Pontiac, Merrick ported 6X heads, Comp 270S cam, Crosswind intake 750 Street Demon, 3.42 30 spline Eaton posi street car. 1980 Formula 350 Pontiac back burner project 1972 LeMans 350 Pontiac |
#31
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.030 455(463). Kinda like running with scissors, it's all fun till somebody gets hurt.
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Robert 69 Firebird-462/Edel round ports/currently running the Holley Sniper/4sp/3.23posi/Deluxe Int/pwr st/vintage air/4wl disc( a work in progress-always ) http://youtu.be/eaWBd3M9MN4 |
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The 455 with a .30 over bore is 462 not 463. But my fav is the 469 I'm building right now for next season. It is a 455 with a .60 over bore, it has Ross light weight forged pistons, Eagle H-beam rods Alum. E-heads 87cc round ports. It will have a Crane Blue print RA IV cam which I used & have used in several engines over the years & I love the way that cam works. I've used it in 400's 455's & even now the 413 which is a 400 with a .60 over bore. That cam make the car jump when i hit the gas but still I love the brute force of the 455's.
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Currently a 462/455...but may be going larger this winter..
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466 Mike Voycey shortblock, 310cfm SD KRE heads, SD "OF 2.0 cam", torker 2 373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft 308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471 |
#34
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400 with Stroker crank in Greenie
455 in Big Red The Green car has more cam and ported e-heads and the Red car as a little less cam and box stock e-heads, and Red just has more of that light-switch kick-in-the-pants feel when you drive it. Green definitely pull harder between 3k-6k. |
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30 over 455 is slightly over 462. I guess some of us just like to round up eh?
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Robert 69 Firebird-462/Edel round ports/currently running the Holley Sniper/4sp/3.23posi/Deluxe Int/pwr st/vintage air/4wl disc( a work in progress-always ) http://youtu.be/eaWBd3M9MN4 |
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I preferred a leaner fighting machine: 433cu (428 +.030 x 4.00)
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Or they could have gone 4.185" bore for a better selection of rings, and just calling it .030" over instead of .035" over. What's the real difference anyway, 1 cubic inch? Yeah, I guess that's worth arguing over.
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Paul Carter Carter Cryogenics www.cartercryo.com 520-409-7236 Koerner Racing Engines You killed it, We build it! 520-294-5758 64 GTO, under re-construction, 412 CID, also under construction. 87 S-10 Pickup, 321,000 miles 99Monte Carlo, 293,000 miles 86 Bronco, 218,000 miles |
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The results are interesting, just goes to show how many big cars have undergone engine rapes! lol
yes, I am guilty as well.
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I guess the 455 blocks with their slightly thinner main bearing support structure as compared to the 400 blocks (3.25" mains vs 3.00" mains) are fine for most builders who want a big-cube engine. A 'real' 455 is still the least expensive route to big cubes for the street. Good factory 455 2-bolt main blocks and cranks can usually be found together for somewhere around $500 these days, a very economical basis for big street power. Also a bit surprised that there aren't more aftermarket blocks being used for the street, where cubes are king.
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 |
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