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Old 05-02-2021, 03:16 PM
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Updates and changes for the car for this year. Calvert split mono's replacing the stock leafsprings and caltracs. Replacing the rear shocks with Calvert single adjustables (temporary..had a great deal on them). Rear end is out ..axle tubes are welded..
The big change is a gear swap...for a few reasons..to lessen the load on the transmission, to see how the Continental reacts to the gear swap, swapping the UCC convertor back in during the season as well, looking to swap some sort of an overdrive into the car in a year or 2, dropping the 60 foot time down to sub 1.5's and also the car is driven more local not a lot of long highway miles.
So its a big change and definitely "geared" towards dragstrip performance and also I think this car has proved..you don't need a lot of gearing to have an all round performing car both on the strip and the street. I've also had some gentle nudging to see what would happen and document the results.

So no more 308 gears for now... 3.73's will be in this week.
Best et so far is 10.761 at 125.64 (car has seen 127mph in 2020) with a 1.5471 best 60ft
A few pics..the 4th picture is the factory spring perch that I just cleaned quick..
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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471

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Old 05-02-2021, 03:27 PM
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No doubt you will feel a difference. I'm going to change one of my cars from 3.23 to 3.73.

I'll be looking for the results. I'm thinking .5 to .6 second improvement in ET. Maybe a wee bit more. That is a big jump in ratio.

Good luck with it.

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Old 05-02-2021, 03:43 PM
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No doubt you will feel a difference. I'm going to change one of my cars from 3.23 to 3.73.

I'll be looking for the results. I'm thinking .5 to .6 second improvement in ET. Maybe a wee bit more. That is a big jump in ratio.

Good luck with it.
Im thinking 2 tenths gain..it may pick up more.

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308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Old 05-02-2021, 04:17 PM
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Nice! Very interested to see the gains. Thinking aboit replacing the factory mono leaf in mine with a set of Calvert split monos but havent pulled the trigger yet.

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Old 05-02-2021, 07:16 PM
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With the 3.73's you really won't need, (may not even want) that low gear set currently in the trans.

With it, it will sure be a head snapper, lol. It'll definitely tighten up the converter.

3.73's will however work real nice if you're planning an overdrive swap in the near future though. 4L80's with the 2.48 first gear works really well with 3.73's.

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Old 05-16-2021, 05:49 PM
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Getting closer. Found some spare time yesterday and installed the upgraded rearend with new gears, split calvert monos,caltracs and calvert shocks. I'm pretty happy with the stance of the car it always sat a little high on the rear. Now it sits about 3/4 of an inch lower and I'm sure it may drop a little more once things settle.
Today I spent time removing the complete exhaust, I'm also installing new Dougs headers to replace my old Hookers and also reworking the exhaust for better ground clearance.
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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Old 05-16-2021, 06:27 PM
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8.5" 10 bolt?

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Old 05-16-2021, 08:15 PM
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8.5" 10 bolt?
The same one I've used from the start with this car..had the tubes welded,fresh bearings and gear swap.and paint to look pretty.

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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Old 05-02-2021, 08:29 PM
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How do those Calvert split monos ride on the street? Maybe you haven’t driven it yet.

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Old 05-02-2021, 08:40 PM
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How do those Calvert split monos ride on the street? Maybe you haven’t driven it yet.
Its not assembled yet..waiting on parts.

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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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Its not assembled yet..waiting on parts.
Figured. Sorry.

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How do those Calvert split monos ride on the street? Maybe you haven’t driven it yet.
Have a few miles on them. feels the same. The car sits about one inch lower in the rear(it used to sit about one /one half inch above stock ride height. With the adjustable shocks I have them at 5 out of 9 for firmness. So I could actually soften the ride up if I wanted to.

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373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor
best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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The info I'm curious about, for the moment, is how the 3.73's do with your current trans, having its lower gear set in it (what ratio?) Might be some magic there...

How much gear ratio would you gain by going to the 4l80 and 3.73 setup?

Did you have any mods done to the UCC converter since you last used it?

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Old 05-03-2021, 01:00 AM
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Low gear set is a 2.75. UCC convertor has sat on the shelf since pulled. I'm going to run it this year to get data points on it for a refresh if needed.

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best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
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Wow quite a change and I'm interested in your results as usual

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following... will be interesting to see what the 3.73s do vs the 3.08, will definitely increase the RPM at the end of the track. good luck!

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With the 2.75, and 3.73's out back, that'll be almost exactly like running 4.10's.

My 2.48/4.10 setup is slightly less effective. 10.16 vs your 10.25


Is the UCC converter looser than your current converter? I'm guessing that's the reason for the converter swap back to the UCC, since this gear change will tighten it up quite a bit.

Will be interesting and fun to play with this summer.

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With the 2.75, and 3.73's out back, that'll be almost exactly like running 4.10's.

My 2.48/4.10 setup is slightly less effective. 10.16 vs your 10.25


Is the UCC converter looser than your current converter? I'm guessing that's the reason for the converter swap back to the UCC, since this gear change will tighten it up quite a bit.

Will be interesting and fun to play with this summer.
After looking at my data from last years runs I found the Continental is slipping about 10 to 12 percent at the stripe. So first thing is to see how the Continental reacts to the gear change. The next step will be to put the UCC in that was built for 342 gears but slipped too much for 308's..it should flash to 3800 to 4000..I want to see what the data is on it so I can send it back if needed for a restall.

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best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft
308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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After looking at my data from last years runs I found the Continental is slipping about 10 to 12 percent at the stripe.
Running 10s with it would suggest you have a "well built" one. Maybe different than apparent "near zero" slipping Continental..

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Old 05-03-2021, 12:12 PM
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Running 10s with it would suggest you have a "well built" one. Maybe different than apparent "near zero" slipping Continental..
It sure has many passes on it. It was also originally built for a 342 geared full weight 80 Trans Am with a 455 6x head engine. So its being worked pretty hard in drive with the current car with the 308's and 100 to 150 hp more than the original spec'd engine.
It has been a great convertor..has been behind 2 different cast head 455 engines, 2 different aluminum head 455's..used for 308 gears and 342 gears.

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308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471
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