[Mark G]

Originally Posted by twooldgoats

Cuz they're slow azz.


Jim

Your such a joker Jim everyone knows the fastest cars are turbo or nitrous...lol

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by Mark G

Your such a joker Jim everyone knows the fastest cars are turbo or nitrous...lol

LOL! Tell that to my buddy. You may have heard of him. 3 time Pro Mod champ Mike Janis.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

LOL! Tell that to my buddy. You may have heard of him. 3 time Pro Mod champ Mike Janis.

Ouch!

GTO George

[Kevspontiacs@aol.com]

Just curious, the crow mod must've weighed what 2550lbs? With it being a ProMod car I'm sure it was built a hair under and then weight added where it was needed to make the 2650?? He went 3.99 at Ducks race. What kind of hp does that show? Stan a little help?? Lol

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Ouch!

GTO George

I can put you in touch with him. He'll build you one of those monsters for your car.

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

LOL! Tell that to my buddy. You may have heard of him. 3 time Pro Mod champ Mike Janis.

What about my friend ..lol I have met your friend 20yrs ago ..have a pic & autograph in my shop..

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Yep he probably needs a set of Warps or Visners or DCI’s RA5 heads (all 3 of the heads will go 520 or more) but anything is better then what he has now!


GTO George

I was referring to the DCI/Arrow non pushrod through the port billet RAV head.

On the run where they had bottom end issues the 60' was .985 and the 330' was 2.59 !!! EGTs were all very even and never went over 700 deg.
Its going to run 5s. The Tiger version went 6.11
I doubt any other Pontiac combo is going to be even close to the power.
Chief needs some of that. Billet block so you can put the screws to it.
Maybe put it in the Crow Mod and give Pro Mod another shot.
Still a uphill battle but it would be fun to see.
Although when Sik gets the solid IA2 that will be interesting in its own right.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

I was referring to the DCI/Arrow non pushrod through the port billet RAV head.

On the run where they had bottom end issues the 60' was .985 and the 330' was 2.59 !!! EGTs were all very even and never went over 700 deg.
Its going to run 5s. The Tiger version went 6.11
I doubt any other Pontiac combo is going to be even close to the power.
Chief needs some of that. Billet block so you can put the screws to it.
Maybe put it in the Crow Mod and give Pro Mod another shot.
Still a uphill battle but it would be fun to see.
Although when Sik gets the solid IA2 that will be interesting in its own right.

You are as bad as the CV-1 cheerleaders, coulda woulda shoulda. That head isn't the baddest thing around, it hasn't done anything yet. It might, it might not, let it do the talking not you.

[BruceWilkie]

EGT's NOT over 700 degrees is NOT a good indication of power or power potential.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by 535 tall deck

Just curious, the crow mod must've weighed what 2550lbs? With it being a ProMod car I'm sure it was built a hair under and then weight added where it was needed to make the 2650?? He went 3.99 at Ducks race. What kind of hp does that show? Stan a little help?? Lol

If he was not running NHRA / Legal Pro Mod from what I understand he ran larger turbos and sometime Nitro in his fuel.

HP needed to run a 3.99 1/8 mile time @ 2650# can vary a good amount. Really need to know some of the other numbers from the run to zero in on it.

Stan

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

If he was not running NHRA / Legal Pro Mod from what I understand he ran larger turbos and sometime Nitro in his fuel.

HP needed to run a 3.99 1/8 mile time @ 2650# can vary a good amount. Really need to know some of the other numbers from the run to zero in on it.

Stan

Stan, can you get a decent HP estimation from a 330' time and 60 foot ?
Anyone know the weight of the FC ?

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by Mark G

What about my friend ..lol I have met your friend 20yrs ago ..have a pic & autograph in my shop..

LOL, I know you Canadians think of him as one of your own. Mike and the whole Janis family are damn good people. I have known them since the mid 70's. If you are ever near the Buffalo, NY area stop by Jan-Cen Motorsports and say hello to John, Mike (if he's not on the road) and the rest of the clan. Check out his blower dyno.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by slowbird

You are as bad as the CV-1 cheerleaders, coulda woulda shoulda. That head isn't the baddest thing around, it hasn't done anything yet. It might, it might not, let it do the talking not you.

Its not even close to as bad. To date any other top end require a billet block ?
Anyway Dave and Steve seem to be pretty humble guys from what I gather.
"Its" going to "talk" at some point. Tick Tock. Few other builds going on.
Whats this about you trying to tell me what I can say or not ? I will talk junk if I want too, free country. If you don't like it, so be it.
Old Tiger engine went 6.11 @ 227. No one in their right mind thinks the new engine will not beat it.

[Kevspontiacs@aol.com]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

If he was not running NHRA / Legal Pro Mod from what I understand he ran larger turbos and sometime Nitro in his fuel.

HP needed to run a 3.99 1/8 mile time @ 2650# can vary a good amount. Really need to know some of the other numbers from the run to zero in on it.

Stan

Thanx Stan

l knew the set ups were different but figured the weights would be close.

190mph and 1.04 from what i could tell from a video. He flashes the time slip but too quick to grab a screenshot

Kevin

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

LOL, I know you Canadians think of him as one of your own. Mike and the whole Janis family are damn good people. I have known them since the mid 70's. If you are ever near the Buffalo, NY area stop by Jan-Cen Motorsports and say hello to John, Mike (if he's not on the road) and the rest of the clan. Check out his blower dyno.

Yes we do great guy hell of a racer.... I met him in the earlier 90's he racer at Cayuga.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Stan, can you get a decent HP estimation from a 330' time and 60 foot ?
Anyone know the weight of the FC ?

I would really like to know how these numbers match up to other pieces listed on the time slip.

Stan

weight = 2530

hp = 2650

60 Foot ET = 0.9852
330 Foot ET = 2.5923
1/8 Mile ET = 3.8973
1/8 Mile MPH = 192.3846
1000 Foot ET = 4.9865
1/4 Mile ET = 5.9051
1/4 Mile MPH = 245.2951

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by 535 tall deck

Thanx Stan

l knew the set ups were different but figured the weights would be close.

190mph and 1.04 from what i could tell from a video. He flashes the time slip but too quick to grab a screenshot

Kevin

Kevin,
Can you post a link to the video?

I average MPH from xxx feet before 1/8 to the 1/8. Right at the 1/8 (660.026 feet actually ) I have the MPH @ 189.25

weight = 2650
hp = 2750

60 Foot ET = 1.0404
330 Foot ET = 2.6722
1/8 Mile ET = 3.9906
1/8 Mile MPH = 186.2410

============

If he was running lighter weight = 2550
hp = 2600

60 Foot ET = 1.0404
330 Foot ET = 2.6749
1/8 Mile ET = 3.9999
1/8 Mile MPH = 185.1164

Stan

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Its not even close to as bad. To date any other top end require a billet block ?
Anyway Dave and Steve seem to be pretty humble guys from what I gather.
"Its" going to "talk" at some point. Tick Tock. Few other builds going on.
Whats this about you trying to tell me what I can say or not ? I will talk junk if I want too, free country. If you don't like it, so be it.
Old Tiger engine went 6.11 @ 227. No one in their right mind thinks the new engine will not beat it.

What the heck, they need a billet block? Lol

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

LOL! Tell that to my buddy. You may have heard of him. 3 time Pro Mod champ Mike Janis.

Janis is a good guy! His crew guys are bada$$es and characters! WE Ran Him in his the Final when Mike got his 1st ADRL win...that's Us/Cody in the far lane.
And fwiw Cody at SLM is the one who built Shawn's new Murder Nova a few years ago

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 535 tall deck

Just curious, the crow mod must've weighed what 2550lbs? With it being a ProMod car I'm sure it was built a hair under and then weight added where it was needed to make the 2650?? He went 3.99 at Ducks race. What kind of hp does that show? Stan a little help?? Lol

I’ll bet he wasn’t weighing 2,650 when he ran that 3.99!


zGTO George