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Old 01-01-2019, 07:50 PM
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Damn, I was just going to ask him if he got his converter.


Also, motors don’t need to come apart when you don’t race them!
So that's a no....yet he has hit 150mph in the 1/8 in a true street legal car...and you have come close in a race car....

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Is your car capable of the class dick runs ?
12 mile drive?

I would run out of gas around mile 4 or 5!

I have enough to go to the liquor store and back.

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Old 01-01-2019, 07:53 PM
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Loll...big words from the beanpole... you are like the little dog that stands behind LJ and eggs it on.. you're not important enough to waste time searching... but it's well known how you are about his performance.... you're not man enough to come out and say it... you rely on innuendo...... that makes you a little bitch...
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Child like in the fact I call it like I see it...
Well you need facts first to call it. So please go back and find where I said anything negative about Dicks car. Please...

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12 mile drive?

I would run out of gas around mile 4 or 5!

I have enough to go to the liquor store and back.
So you're car has headlight, flashers, roll up windows, inspection , insurance, legal plates and dot tires?

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Old 01-01-2019, 08:10 PM
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So you're car has headlight, flashers, roll up windows, inspection , insurance, legal plates and dot tires?
Headlights,tagged and insured and a drag radial tire, and mufflers.

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The heads had a issue that was not easily fixed. A few guys have got right at 400cfm with std High Ports and Dan is very good at what he does.
So what you found out the company that did the original work on Kelvins KRE HPs also did the work on Chiefs E-Heads?

Theses types of comments from someone like you does the Pontiac community a disservice.

Why don’t you jump on the “light car” bandwagon and slam the shops who prepped the HP heads? So if Kelvins HPs had an “issue” , was that before and after the heads were ported by different people?

If you would actually post facts and not your bias opinion, you would understand the HPs were standard pushrod location heads. You can only get so much area in them, I don’t care if you are the Butlers, Dan Barton or Marcella. Kelvin didn’t want to run an offset valve train, so the “issues” with the heads was really the goals of the customer. The CV-1s filled that bill and out performed the previous combination even though you have said in the past, CV-1s have issues.

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Headlights,tagged and insured and a drag radial tire, and mufflers.
Jack, you forgot to tell them, comes with a free 24/7 tow vehicle....😯

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12 mile drive?

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I have enough to go to the liquor store and back.

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Jack, you forgot to tell them, comes with a free 24/7 tow vehicle....😯

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So ur back building those 600 HP Killah’s?

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So what you found out the company that did the original work on Kelvins KRE HPs also did the work on Chiefs E-Heads?

Theses types of comments from someone like you does the Pontiac community a disservice.

Why don’t you jump on the “light car” bandwagon and slam the shops who prepped the HP heads? So if Kelvins HPs had an “issue” , was that before and after the heads were ported by different people?

If you would actually post facts and not your bias opinion, you would understand the HPs were standard pushrod location heads. You can only get so much area in them, I don’t care if you are the Butlers, Dan Barton or Marcella. Kelvin didn’t want to run an offset valve train, so the “issues” with the heads was really the goals of the customer. The CV-1s filled that bill and out performed the previous combination even though you have said in the past, CV-1s have issues.

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Calvin, cfm is all that matters, what's this pushrod area thing you speak of?

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Old 01-02-2019, 12:21 AM
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Old 01-02-2019, 01:39 AM
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... Motors don’t need to come apart when you don’t race them...
Damn, can't you read? Tell me how Dick has a good points season without racing,

... Oops- I had planned to keep quiet through all 49 pages of this trash...

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... Oops- I had planned to keep quiet through all 49 pages of this trash...

I know the feeling---you just can't look away.


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So what you found out the company that did the original work on Kelvins KRE HPs also did the work on Chiefs E-Heads?

Theses types of comments from someone like you does the Pontiac community a disservice.

Why don’t you jump on the “light car” bandwagon and slam the shops who prepped the HP heads? So if Kelvins HPs had an “issue” , was that before and after the heads were ported by different people?

If you would actually post facts and not your bias opinion, you would understand the HPs were standard pushrod location heads. You can only get so much area in them, I don’t care if you are the Butlers, Dan Barton or Marcella. Kelvin didn’t want to run an offset valve train, so the “issues” with the heads was really the goals of the customer. The CV-1s filled that bill and out performed the previous combination even though you have said in the past, CV-1s have issues.

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Calvin, so you don't think stating "its a good comparison" to the HPs when all the the best PMD style heads are wide port style is a disservice to the Pontiac community ? Giving a blanket statement that there have been gains across the board in switching to CVs with E heads, High Ports and Tigers is somewhat disingenuous. I don't think its a fair comparison when you run a canted valve. The std HP has one hand tied behind its back so to speak.
I don't doubt there were gains with the guys you mentioned. But every situation is different. Now NA is the truth. I could not care less how any head does power adder myself. And when your stuff has not beaten Langer, Snyder, Rex with Tiger , Mike with E heads or slowbirds NA power how can you imply they will pick up across the board vs those PMD style (wideport) heads ?
Put up big NA power with huge CR, 1.1" lift cams and carburetors, no computer controlled port injection and you will get your due.
Now I believe some of the big dogs who wanted to upgrade their top ends would have chosen your stuff if your crew came off different and treated folks better. And that head would be more developed and in a better place now.
Also some of the BS you guys have received was unwarranted.
Had another casting run so it can't be all bad. E heads, KRE and even Tigers have been through crap too.

I have never given the weight of Kelvins car a second thought. Don't put words in my mouth, little sensitive to that lately.(my fault) I am sure its a fine well thought out car.
The facts are CVs had not beaten Mikes lowly E head number. Just go out and do it, no reason you can't.

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Dragncar I suggest you research Fulton's NA HP in n20 tune. 13:1compression, cam optimal for N2O, smaller cubes than Mikes(20?), and low crankcase vacuum . Nearly 1100 HP.(1095)
What's it do at 16:1 or more compression and cam optimized for NA and vacuum where it should be? And the ports on this we're digitized @6-7 years ago. There are bigger "badder" ports available should an application call for it. The manifold is ported/cast not sheet metal.
As far as conflicts... before you judge think how you'd respond to someone criticizing your product or service by someone who's not only never used it but knows little or nothing about your product or service. Throw in the mix those that just post up lies for "sport". And their is a huge difference between misinformation vs deliberate disinformation. If I find I've posted something incorrect I'll own up and try to correct. None of us are perfect.

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low crankcase vacuum . Nearly 1100 HP.(1095)
What's it do at 16:1 or more compression and cam optimized for NA and vacuum where it should be?
Serious question, why do a lot these builds have vacuum issues?

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Serious question, why do a lot these builds have vacuum issues?
Hard to say Brian. It's not unique to CV builds..
Is it admitting not perfect , is it should have could have? Beats me.

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