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#61
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My trusty calculator says… 150HP/$22,000.00=$146.6666667dollars/perhp. hmmmm. Calvin Hill Hill Performance 708-250-7420 |
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If from et / mph and weight you can calculate HP. Then why from et / mph and HP can't you calculate weight?
Using 1107 Dynoed HP, 2350 lbs, 5 speed trans, and DA = 2750. 60 Foot ET = 1.1102 330 Foot ET = 3.0250 1/8 Mile ET = 4.6480 1/8 Mile MPH = 151.0996 1000 Foot ET = 6.0567 1/4 Mile ET = 7.2503 1/4 Mile MPH = 189.1051 Stan The / HP / Torque curves used for this simulation: Engine_Size_=__535.0211_ci ________RPM________Horse_______Torque_________BMEP _______5800______901.915______816.700______230.193 _______5850______910.804______817.700______230.475 _______5900______919.600______818.600______230.729 _______5950______928.300______819.400______230.954 _______6000______936.900______820.100______231.152 _______6050______945.514______820.800______231.349 _______6100______953.909______821.300______231.490 _______6150______962.196______821.700______231.603 _______6200______970.373______822.000______231.687 _______6250______978.437______822.200______231.744 _______6300______986.264______822.200______231.744 _______6350______993.971______822.100______231.715 _______6400_____1001.554______821.900______231.659 _______6450_____1009.010______821.600______231.575 _______6500_____1016.213______821.100______231.434 _______6550_____1023.157______820.400______231.236 _______6600_____1029.962______819.600______231.011 _______6650_____1036.498______818.600______230.729 _______6700_____1042.761______817.400______230.391 _______6750_____1048.872______816.100______230.024 _______6800_____1054.699______814.600______229.602 _______6850_____1060.237______812.900______229.122 _______6900_____1065.611______811.100______228.615 _______6950_____1070.554______809.000______228.023 _______7000_____1075.324______806.800______227.403 _______7050_____1079.783______804.400______226.727 _______7100_____1083.791______801.700______225.966 _______7150_____1087.611______798.900______225.176 _______7200_____1091.104______795.900______224.331 _______7250_____1094.264______792.700______223.429 _______7300_____1097.085______789.300______222.471 _______7350_____1099.561______785.700______221.456 _______7400_____1101.828______782.000______220.413 _______7450_____1103.599______778.000______219.286 _______7500_____1105.008______773.800______218.102 _______7550_____1106.049______769.400______216.862 _______7600_____1106.862______764.900______215.593 _______7650_____1107.298______760.200______214.268 _______7700_____1107.351______755.300______212.887 _______7750_____1107.016______750.200______211.450 _______7800_____1106.287______744.900______209.956 _______7850_____1105.308______739.500______208.434 _______7900_____1103.924______733.900______206.856 _______7950_____1102.132______728.100______205.221 _______8000_____1100.076______722.200______203.558 _______8050_____1097.602______716.100______201.839 _______8100_____1094.857______709.900______200.091 _______8150_____1091.684______703.500______198.287 _______8200_____1088.389______697.100______196.483 _______8250_____1084.658______690.500______194.623 _______8300_____1080.486______683.700______192.706 _______8350_____1076.183______676.900______190.790 _______8400_____1071.432______669.900______188.817 _______8450_____1066.547______662.900______186.844 _______8500_____1061.367______655.800______184.843 _______8550_____1055.726______648.500______182.785 _______8600_____1049.947______641.200______180.727 _______8650_____1044.028______633.900______178.670 _______8700_____1037.639______626.400______176.556 _______8750_____1031.107______618.900______174.442 _______8800_____1024.433______611.400______172.328 _______8850_____1017.447______603.800______170.186 _______8900_____1010.316______596.200______168.044 _______8950_____1003.041______588.600______165.902 _______9000______995.449______580.900______163.731 AVG:___7400_____1046.168______751.431______211.797 MIN:___5800______901.915______580.900______163.731 MAX:___9000_____1107.351______822.200______231.744
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and we have a winner on the calc contest! Stan, that looks like a ehead hp curve with that low of rpm peak. warning, warning, malfunction.
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#65
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That would be too hard for some to figure out. They don't understand equations and stuff.
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Where is the wall(limiting factor) in a pontiac engine?
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yes he does
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the weight? why no ia2?
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There were two points posted 1104 HP and 823 torque. That was the closest I could find in a short period of time. If you have a dyno sheet that you think is better than that and hits those two points would you please post it up. Stan
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Sounds cheap to me
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First Pontiac powered street car in the 7's 7.940@170.84. 3460#s |
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There dyno is happy. The car is an x pro stock car top of the line everything with a stick. It's not making anywhere near 1200 HP.
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First Pontiac powered street car in the 7's 7.940@170.84. 3460#s |
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Weight was 2350... I think that was the answer to someone sayin track results didnt match dyno power.
The real question then becomes... Did that car actually weigh 2350 or close at the starting line? The real answer has been elusive... may indeed be honest, who am I to say? but... Maybe they should put it on the scales for all to see then run a back up pass??? One way to settle it IMO. No IA2??? seems totally irrelevant to the topic... IMO a well prepped stock block probably survives a few passes at that level... seein vin63's blown nitro 1800+ cast crank 400 stock block combo holds for quite awhile before cracking. |
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From my perspective...money and political correctness seem the biggest obstacles... the physical dimensions are limiting factors if trying to go toe to toe at 500+ ci...
I commend Jack for steppin up to the billet heads... just wish he wasnt going the PA route. |
#74
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NFW that car weighs 2250 let alone 2350. Marks not a big guy and those cars weigh 1800 wet with a big block without ballast. its probably 2000lbs.
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Lil Jack whined:
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Leech followed sobbing: Quote:
Just an FYI for those that don't understand, the weight of the vehicle used in these calculations are including the driver, fuel car, etc as it sits on the starting line. As for it weighing 2000 lbs, if Leech thinks that is the weight on the line, he's drinking some of Lil Jack's stash. Use Leech's 2000 lb for car with the driver weight (maybe 150 lbs minimum probably more) and then calculate the HP. Still around 1200 HP using his MPH. No happy dyno needed there.
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you're a whacko goof ball.
I was able to dry those awful tears after i went to your site to again find you were fos as usual. Your emotional attachment to what you "like" more than clouds your judgement and objectivity. You cannot reason or fairly evaluate data..... posted right from your site.
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EHTTFMF! Being dead, it is not hard on you. You don't even know you're dead. It is hard on everyone else that is not dead. BEING STUPID WORKS THE SAME WAY! The rest of us suffer. Last edited by mike leech; 03-28-2014 at 12:49 PM. |
#77
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Hey now. Watch that spicy language Mister.
Last edited by GTO Dan; 03-28-2014 at 12:54 PM. |
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Oh and i've dynoed there. good guys. I never came close in the car to their hp numbers tho. I'd say happy from my experience.. Have you?
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Using 1128 Dynoed HP, 2000 lbs, 5 speed trans, and 2700 DA
60 Foot ET = 1.2078 330 Foot ET = 3.1286 1/8 Mile ET = 4.6850 1/8 Mile MPH = 158.9112 1000 Foot ET = 6.0299 1/4 Mile ET = 7.1660 1/4 Mile MPH = 199.0816 Using 1177 Dynoed HP, 2100 lbs, 5 speed trans, and 2700 DA 60 Foot ET = 1.2078 330 Foot ET = 3.1296 1/8 Mile ET = 4.6876 1/8 Mile MPH = 158.7797 1000 Foot ET = 6.0331 1/4 Mile ET = 7.1689 1/4 Mile MPH = 199.1982 Using 1226 Dynoed HP, 2200 lbs, 5 speed trans, and 2700 DA 60 Foot ET = 1.2078 330 Foot ET = 3.1299 1/8 Mile ET = 4.6891 1/8 Mile MPH = 158.7339 1000 Foot ET = 6.0344 1/4 Mile ET = 7.1694 1/4 Mile MPH = 199.4059 Stan
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After much more crying Leech said:
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