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hookers 2 in.tubes 3 1/2 collectors
Im running a set of Hookers and I have 35 thousands clearence between the oil pan and the ont tube and another tube about 1/8 inch .
I had a 10 Qt.panon a 455 I noched the side but I now have a canton 7 Qt. and VERY little clearence whats the deal has any one else had this problem and what can be done to fix it? I need help on this Thanks Lanny |
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im running those headers on my 72 bird with a 7qt milodon pan... clearance is tight but nothing like yours. i was considering putting some heat reflective tape on the pan in that area but havent done anything yet. could also get some header wrap for the tubes near the pan, might help reflect some heat. only other option is to "massage" the tubes in that area, or get a different pan. never used the canton pan but i can say the milodon is a very nice pan & i didnt have any issue with clearance... except for the starter, had to install it with the header bolts loosened so i could swing it out a bit.
with race parts, modifications are usually the norm. |
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I have a canton 6 qrt with hooker super comps on my 455, no problem with clearence to the pan. Only problem i have is my braided dipstick keeps burning. No clearence between the dipstick and headers, do you also have this problem? What dipstick are you using?
Thanks, Daan |
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I have run the same headers with a 455 D-port engine &I think all the pans are to close the the tubes, no matter which headers you use. When I went to round port heads & headers there is a little more room because of teh way they are built & th amount of room between the ports on the round ports. About the only real soloution is to have headers made for your car & pan. I know it gets more expensive but they will be better & have a better fit. Or the last thing is to go back to RA exhaust manifolds.
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arent the d-port super comps 1 7/8 tubes? the 2" are round port.
floffy: i use the stock dipstick with mine, fits great once installed & nowhere near a header tube. required a little fanagling when installing the header, had to bend the tube down a tad to clear the header flange. bend it back up when done & its all good. |
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I got the canton pan also and with my program splayed main caps I cant use the stock stick location, so I will be using the npt fitting on the pan, any clearance issues other than what u say? I bouth the solid one tho instead that can be bent etc. Im using KRE d port heads tho SO Headers will be different, Are u using round ports?
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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Darby I had issues with the Canton bung on the driver's side and my Hookers getting even the ministarter out. I had to bang the tube a little. Other Canton pan welded the bung and plug and ground it flat.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Hmmm, I was thinking it was on passenger side , but I see its not now, u have the same 15-452 pan? Maybe d port headers are least a little different then your round I hope? or ill just run without like I did before,lol
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's Last edited by grandville455; 12-02-2014 at 12:13 AM. |
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It is the roadrace second gen F body pan. 15-450 I believe.
https://www.cantonracingproducts.com...il-Pans/1.html But the same on on the 500 IA I added and extra 1" and the one going on the new 455 for the 81 is a 452 I added more in front so the sump is the same length as the 450 second gen but deeper. When I had the Milodon road race on my 78 there was never an issue with dropping the starter, found that out one day on the 78 when it needed to come off and that bung hit the starter, until I bopped the header a little
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Yea with my power master , I have no issues with starter coming out with header on or hitting that bung on oil pan, I guess i wont know til i get it back in car and see how the stick fits. I'll still have the machine shop mock it up for the correct length just in case i can make it work, nice to know oil level
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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I have the road race pan also and hooker super combs round port. I pulled the stick and put a plug in it, will see what i can change next year before it hit the roads.
Daan |
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You can drill a hole in the baffle and use a stock dipstick.
I have a McLeod starter.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Skip
You talking to daan? I can't use stock cause of the splayed caps.
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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Forgot about the splayed although I used a stock type tube on my IA2 with just a little grinding on the cap and bolted the tube to the Spotts/IA windage tray. Don't remember if it was played or straight caps now though.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Yea , its pretty close
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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