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Old 05-19-2020, 09:49 PM
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Not sure if anyone posted this. https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...of-collapsing/

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More sub standard products...
I bet almost any Jack stand that looks like those IE Lowes Kobalts are the same

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Old 05-23-2020, 07:48 PM
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Thank you for posting the recall information. I just returned mine today. Harbor Freight will give you a gift card for what they cost ($42.00).
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Thanks! My Tempest is up on those right now!

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Old 05-19-2020, 11:40 PM
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https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...80#post6128880

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I will have to check on the ones I have.
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Old 05-20-2020, 09:41 AM
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What I wonder, is if there are tons of those out there under different brand names and only HF is standing up and recalling them?

I feel like Im less at risk, because I use the heavy duty ones for cars that never weigh more than 2 tons, but I would like to know if the MFG in China is making those same ones for 20 brand names.

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Old 05-20-2020, 10:01 AM
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I don’t even know where mine came from but I also always leave the jack in place with a little tension on it

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Old 05-20-2020, 10:43 AM
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Go to Youtube, and reference "defective jack stands", plenty of videos there that are brands besides HF.

Yes, as we all know one or two chinese plants just paint them different colors, and slap different stickers on them. HF is probably the biggest target at this time, so they were the first one to issue a recall.

This shows exactly how little value the chicoms place on human life (or any life, if you remember the dog treat/food fiasco), and how much value they place on money, over lives.

Years ago some offshore made jack stands were made from exhaust tubing sawed into three legs with a sheetmetal band spot welded to the legs after they were splayed. They had a pin that allowed height adjustment for an inner piece of tube that had a sheet metal frame saddle welded to it. I believe they were rated at 3 tons.

When I bought out the guy that previously owned my garage/gas station, I inherited a pair of these stands. When stripping out the 69 GP race car in my signature pics, I used them to hold up the rear of the car. I doubt the rear of the car weighed more than 1/2 ton after all the components were removed. All that was remaining was the frame, main body sheet metal, and the rear axle. After sitting on those stands for 2-3 weeks, I came in one morning to find the car sitting on the floor. One stand had collapsed and pulled the car sideways tipping over the remaining stand.

If anyone still has any of these antique stands around, I'd recommend tossing them before something like this happens to someone else. Picture below:



They were sold by a bunch of retailers, with different paint and stickers.

Article from the H.A.M.B. about these 3 legged stands, it shows a picture of the failed collapsed stand:

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...ill-you.97173/

One more thing to add, If you're working on an asphalt driveway, the jack stands will sink into the asphalt, the higher the ambient temperature the quicker they sink, and they can tip over. I try to use a board, or piece of plywood under them to alleviate tearing up the asphalt and avoid them tipping over.

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More has to be happening to collapse a Jack Stand than just a car sitting on it level.

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I had a set of those three legged jack stands. I never used them. I just checked the ones I have. Have had them for years so no idea where they came from but they seem robust

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Heck over 45 years of working on cars and lots of those 3 legged jack stands(when we used jack stands in high school) never had one collapse, but have heard of that potential. But mine are old enough they are probably USA made. But I generally use the newer cast ones-and do have a HB pair I'll have to check out. Several AC Delco,

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Heck over 45 years of working on cars and lots of those 3 legged jack stands(when we used jack stands in high school) never had one collapse, but have heard of that potential. But mine are old enough they are probably USA made. But I generally use the newer cast ones-and do have a HB pair I'll have to check out. Several AC Delco,
I have a pair of the three legged stands that I got in 1980. They have always worked just fine. They appear heavier duty than Brad's photo. Definitely not made of exhaust system pipe!

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I have a pair of the three legged stands that I got in 1980. They have always worked just fine. They appear heavier duty than Brad's photo. Definitely not made of exhaust system pipe!
I never thought holding up a stripped out 69 GP was too much for it to hold either, until it folded up just like in the photo from the H.A.M.B. I linked to. Between the 2 stands, they couldn't have been holding more than half a ton (1000#)..................

I know that there were a bunch of those stands around garages, and DIY guys had them because they were cheap to purchase. I know after that one folded up, I'd never trust one.

I inspected all 4 sets of the stands I have, and probably because they're all older stands, the teeth and pawls are way better designed than the HF ones that were recalled. The teeth are close to 3/8 inch deep engagement, and the pawls are straight across the ends, and sit in the bottom piece parallel to the teeth on the upper part.

If I'm just lifting a vehicle, and won't be removing the wheels, I just use a 6X6 under the tires. Only use jackstands if I have to remove a wheel. I also have chain falls hanging from the ceiling, and will sometimes throw a chain on a vehicle as a backup to jackstands.

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The thing about this post is I have a lift and I started this damn project in my driveway two miles from my shop ��

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After about the 7th thread on this, I checked my jackstands and found that they didn't come from Harbor Frieght. Better yet, they don't appear to have the issue that the recalled stands do.

This YouTube video explains what the problem is, and is a good tutorial for checking your own jackstands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwcWdKwPvhI

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Had a customer's T/A up on four of those tubular stands with the wheels removed. 1 started to collapse and the rest followed. It's difficult to get a car off the ground with no wheels on it !

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That video was helpful. Ill go check mine out tomorrow.

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Checked mind their Autocraft I bought them at Advance in 2016 , I remember than that I had bought two at Harbour Freight to have 4 and returned them and bought two more from Advance

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I had a problem with the tripod style made from muffler tubing. It failed and punched a hole in the bottom of a car, a corvette, I was working under. Serious and expensive damage. Right in front of the owner. Since then and for the last 35 years I have only relied on 6x6 inch wood blocks. Cheap and reliable. They have never failed.

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