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Sidponcho · 07-31-2011, 02:37 PM

New neighbor just moved in. And they have a Rottweiler.....no chain...no fence. This morning I went out to the mailbox and the dog came off their property and onto the street....and came at me. They came running out and called the dog back (the dog was reluctant to go back to the owner).

If this dog comes off their property at me again, I will put a 9mm bullet in its head.

Thanks for the rant

lfdsteve · 07-31-2011, 02:40 PM

In past week here in Lansing papers, two cases of people being "charged " by dogs, dogs getting shot. Both shooters charged with felonies FWIW. Typical US legal system, protects the moron.

Steve

bobzdar · 07-31-2011, 02:59 PM

I know here, unless you have proof that the dog bit you or your livestock, it's a felony to harm the dog unless it's been deemed dangerous.

Blame the owners, NOT the dog. They can't control their dog and they should have to suffer the consequences, not the poor animal. Document what's going on and contact animal control, we've had similar issues in our neighborhood and it ended up in court with a local dog owner having a misdemeanor and a suspended jail sentence. If their dogs are even observed outside their house without a muzzle on, or outside of their fence at all, I think they get 150 days in jail. 2 of their dogs had already been deemed dangerous due to killing other owner's pets and they were repeatedly (and documented) outside the fence and off their property despite being warned, which is a big no-no. We haven't seen the dogs since, but they are not friendly people and blame everyone else for their dog's behavior.

Complete contrast to other neighbors when one of their (small) dogs actually bit my wife. She calmly approached the neighbor, explained the situation and we haven't seen the dog since. That's a responsible pet owner.

Do not antagonize or be agressive with the dog in any way or even if it does bite you, you'll have no recourse. Every dog gets one free bite around here, and if you antagonize it or get agressive, as far as the law is concerned if it bites you, you got what you deserved.

quick67bird · 07-31-2011, 03:14 PM

I don't care what the law is. If a dog comes at me, family, or pets aggressively I will defend myself or them and after I am done with the dog I am going after the owners next.

PonchoV8 · 07-31-2011, 03:34 PM

Call animal control immediately and have them cited. Someone is gonna get hurt.

Here if a dog is off it's own property it's a code violation. If an animal is off it's property and is chasing, biting fighting or even menacing another animal (or human) you are within your rights to shoot the animal and the owner will still be charged with violating codes. Animal control will suggest you protect yourself and other animals if the owner will not.
If you don't kill the animal and there are two occurrences of code violations for chasing, biting, fighting or menacing the owner is ticketed twice and has to pay a bond and notify their insurance company that they have been cited for having a dangerous animal.

That means big bucks in premiums--they'll get rid of the dog.

sleepy · 07-31-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidponcho

New neighbor just moved in. And they have a Rottweiler.....no chain...no fence. This morning I went out to the mailbox and the dog came off their property and onto the street....and came at me. They came running out and called the dog back (the dog was reluctant to go back to the owner).

If this dog comes off their property at me again, I will put a 9mm bullet in its head.

Thanks for the rant

Have you talked to the owner? The dog needs to learn his new boundaries But he did what he is supposed to do.(be aggressive towards strangers and you are a stranger to him) The owner needs to teach the dog his NEW boundaries and I'm pretty sure if you make friends with the dog and let it know you're supposed to be there it won't go after you. Probably wouldn't give you a second look.

fyrffytr1 · 07-31-2011, 03:44 PM

Have you met your new neighbors yet? It might be a good idea to introduce yourself and welcome them to the neighborhood. They may not be bad people. Give them a chance to do the right thing.

fyrffytr1 · 07-31-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy

Have you talked to the owner? The dog needs to learn his new boundaries But he did what he is supposed to do.(be aggressive towards strangers and you are a stranger to him) The owner needs to teach the dog his NEW boundaries and I'm pretty sure if you make friends with the dog and let it know you're supposed to be there it won't go after you. Probably wouldn't give you a second look.

Sleepy,
I was typing my reply while yours was being posted. You got me at the light!

PonchoV8 · 07-31-2011, 03:48 PM

Good advice. Meet them--welcome them. Tell them the animal is aggressive and they need to constrain it. I wouldn't give any room for wiggle on them chaining the dog, personally. You'd rather not have to shoot him. I'd call Animal Control the next loose dog occurrence after you talk to them.
Good luck getting to the door!

GpFreak · 07-31-2011, 03:50 PM

Pepper spray?

SRR · 07-31-2011, 05:20 PM

Buy some large "milkbone" biscuits. Make friends with the owners and the dog. My neighbors have three huge dogs that would bark and growl at me every time I was out in the yard. I decided one day to give them each a treat and now they sit at the fence wagging their tails when they see me.

wytnyt · 07-31-2011, 06:22 PM

a thick steak seasoned with the proper ingredients is the answer

Old Goat Racer · 07-31-2011, 06:27 PM

I like the milkbone biscuit idea, just soak them in antifreeze first.

Sidponcho · 07-31-2011, 06:31 PM

I told them they need a chain. I won't be waiting for their un-restrained Rotty to bite me, my kids, or my 83 year old mother. I'd rather be brought up on charges.

71GP76TA · 07-31-2011, 06:45 PM

I am a firm believer in animal rights.... Shoot the owners.

68lemansman · 07-31-2011, 06:52 PM

My dog acts agressive (barking or growling) when she sees new people but when she aproches people she a big baby! I would agree get to know your neighbors and tell them maybe the dog is harmless if it knows you. No sense in getting arrested and charged over something that possibly could be fixed. I think the neighbors need to be more controlling of their pets if nobody knows who or how their dog is.

Sidponcho · 07-31-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 68lemansman

My dog acts agressive (barking or growling) when she sees new people but when she aproches people she a big baby! I would agree get to know your neighbors and tell them maybe the dog is harmless if it knows you. No sense in getting arrested and charged over something that possibly could be fixed. I think the neighbors need to be more controlling of their pets if nobody knows who or how their dog is.

What kind of dog do you have?

68lemansman · 07-31-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidponcho

What kind of dog do you have?

Pitbull terrier

fastgto · 07-31-2011, 07:08 PM

A couple of 1 inch by 1 inch cubes of foam soaked in chicken noodle soup works. Dog will eat it then won`t be able to unload his dung .Yippee let`s count how many people say I`m a moron. I`m only saying what I`ve read I HAVE NOT DONE this nor would I.

Brian Baker · 07-31-2011, 07:30 PM

We had 2 dog shootings here recently in Anne Arundel county (in Maryland, one of the most liberal and anti-2nd Amendment states in the country). Both dogs were Pit Bulls, and not properly restrained by their owners. One person was charged, the other not, which is odd in Maryland...not even charged with unlawful discharge of a firearm.

Bottom line?

Shoot the friggin' dog if it comes at you menacingly...the hassle you'll go through will be less than if the dog takes a chunk out of your ass.

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