[Judge273]

I am always looking for production numbers by transmission. I can never find them published in books.

Here is what I know:

1970 Judges w/ RA IV

325 HT 4sp
72 HT Auto
17 CV 4sp
7 CV Auto

1971 Judges w/ 455HO

177 HT 4sp
169 HT Auto
11 HT 3 sp
3 CV 4sp
14 CV Auto

Please feel free to add to list for easy access on all A body roundports cars.

[judgera4]

69 judge w/RAIV

239 HT 4SP
58 HT auto
5 conv 4 SP
0 conv auto

[Bet Winner]

Originally Posted by Judge273

1970 Judges w/ RA IV

325 HT 4sp
72 HT Auto
17 CV 4sp
7 CV Auto

I believe there were 17 Ram Air IV convertibles and MOST of them, not all, were Judges. Around 13 were Judges, but I cannot remember exactly.

[johnta1]

Of the 72 automatics in 1970 Judge's with M40 tranny:

Pontiac=41
Fremont=9
Arlington=12
Baltimore=10

These aren't my numbers though, probably from these forums somewhere. (Rick?)

[Judge273]

453 M-22 GTOs with the 455 H.O.

23 3-speed cars.

The 4-speeds by plant are 244 Pontiac, 73 Framingham, 115 Fremont, and 21 Lakewood.

There were 21 HO convertibles, all built at the Pontiac plant.

These numbers do include the 3 Judges verts and 177 Judge HT's.

276 71 GTO HT with 455 HO M-22.

There were a total of 54 455 H.O.-powered GT-37s. I have no breakdown of the 54, but I estimate it to be about 34 sticks and 20 automatics.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Bumping this up.
Currently on a search to find a thread we had going on here - where I had posted all available info/documents/pictures of all the known 1970 Ram Air IV Judge Convertibles.

At minimum there was at least a picture of each car , and most of them we had plenty of info about them.

I can't find that thread , it might have disappeared on the last forum software re-hash.
If anyone can find it , please give it a BUMP to bring it back into view.

With 2 of the Automatic cars coming up for sale at Kissimmee event , I wanted to update that thread.

I think all we had on the OO M40 Vert was a pre-restoration picture in non-original color.
Seems like it was wearing Carousel Red/HuggerOrange.

And a White M40 , that was wearing OrbitO pre-resto.
Have not heard another peep or squeek about the White one and its been years since.

17 Stick and 7 Auto is -from what seems to be consensus- the total of ALL GTO & Judge combined.
17 seems to have been some kind of magic number with PMD stuff
Many say 17 was total Ram Air IV Judge Vert production.
Have also heard 14 and 12
I believe 12 is also the number of current known cars.

I have all the pictures and documents from that thread on a sick laptop that needs surgery.
So I can't access the stuff until I get in the mood to screw with it.

Any help and all contributing posts definitely appreciated

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Going to go from memory , best I can , about the 12 known
Seems like it was 6 Sticks and 6 Auto's = Known Living
ANYONE is encouraged to make corrections here , please do.
Likely some mistakes , but it gets the ball rolling again.

4 Speed Cars :

Red , Red , White Top
Red , Sandalwood , White Top
Pepper Green , Green , White Top
Pepper Green , Black , Black Top
Silver , Black , Black Top
Orbit Orange , Saddle , Gold Top


Automatic Cars:

Atoll Blue , Blue , White Top
Silver , Black , Black Top
White , Black , Black Top
Orbit Orange , Black , Black Top
Anaconda Gold , ? , ?
-------- Forgot one here

[Racer_X 070]

Baron,
Here is some additional information that you have asked about the 1970 RAIV Judge Convs. In my records I have information on 13 1970 Judge Conv RAIV cars. Attached is a table of the cars, colors, transmission, state sold in and the number of options on each car. This # includes Judge package and Ride and Handling package as well.

I did speak with the owner of the White car that was from Canada, if I remember correctly from the conversation. The car has not been restored.

I can also collaborate the information that there is one more RAIV Judge Conv out there that is not on this list. I do not know if we will have that cars info as the owner is secretive about it's information. I was told this second hand.

Finally, I have produced and just launched a 1970 & 1971 GTO Judge Registry for these cars. It first started out just for 1970 Judge Conv cars but has morphed into a registry for hardtops as well for model years 1970 and 1971. The Website has some growth to experience, but it is at a point where it is functional. Next steps are for a reports page where a user can search the database for how many cars were "this color", etc. There will be some "canned" searches, but I am also working on custom searches as well. The results will only be for what data is in the database.

Here is the website address: www.gtojudgeregistry.com

I hope you all take a look at this site; I will be making a strong push to advertise the site more in 2023 to increase awareness.

I hope the information I have provided has been beneficial.
Steve

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Thanks Steve

And that is really great news about your Registry.
Will definitely be checking that out.
Enthusiasts will welcome that.

2 small things I want to point out about these Ram4 lists with 13 cars.
The Granada Gold car was restored with a Sandalwood Top , though it appears to have been built with the Dark Gold top.
Granada Gold is probably the best color to go along with the Dark Gold Top.
When the OrbitOrange 4spd was restored, that owner had to have a whole new roll of that material made
to do the Top for that car.
It was said he has enough material left over to do perhaps 50 more Tops.
So if anyone needs to have one made that color ,,, he has more material to spare.
Pass it on ...........


Next thing is the list that was supplied to Diego - by a friend of his - lists the Black Auto car as being built with a White Top.
It was restored with Sandalwood Top.
And I like that combo better.
I am thinking that since that list has partial VIN's listed that he had either seen the Invoice on that car , or had seen the trim tag in person.

Does anyone know for positive sure which color top the Black Auto was built with ?
No big deal towards the cars dynamite appearance , just curiosity on my part.

[Racer_X 070]

Baron,

The Black Auto car has a Sandalwood top and interior. That is what is listed on the PHS that I have for the car. You are also correct about the Granada Gold car; it was ordered with a gold top.

Steve

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Just bumping this up
In case anyone has any old news or new news .

Some of these 70 IV JVert cars have been dancing around in the past few years.

Still have not heard any further sounds about any 69 IV JVerts other than the Orange car of Ames and the Black car that Milt used to own.
As far as I know Ames car is still in his collection
And the Black car still with the fellow in California who bought it from Milt

[hakansan]

I have a regular GTO (non Judge) with RAIV in Sweden. Sold new to Sweden with kilometer speedometer. Palamino copper with black interior with D98 stipes from factory. How many where made and what are they going for in the US? I have the buildsheet!

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

70 Hdtp IV 4spd Green-Green GTO just sold for 105k a week or two ago.
Frame Off and previous Concours award winner
That was sort of low in my opinion.

You might have the only IV car with Kilo speedo .
Can't recall another one.

There is a Palomino IV 4spd GTO Vert with D98
But they used Olive 70 eyebrows on it for some reason , instead of Red White Black 69 swords.

[hakansan]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

70 Hdtp IV 4spd Green-Green GTO just sold for 105k a week or two ago.
Frame Off and previous Concours award winner
That was sort of low in my opinion.

You might have the only IV car with Kilo speedo .
Can't recall another one.

There is a Palomino IV 4spd GTO Vert with D98
But they used Olive 70 eyebrows on it for some reason , instead of Red White Black 69 swords.

Mine has a memo handwritten on the buildsheet that says build with black stripes.

[Racer_X 070]

Are you looking for the total production of 1970 GTO's with a RAIV and 4 speed, that number is 627 hardtops. I would recommend looking at the www.gtojudgeregistry.com website, you can register your car through that website and help you with numbers of cars that have survived. Also, if you are on Facebook, there is a Facebook group called 1970 & 1971 GTO Judge Registry & Ram Air Cars. Good information in the group.

[hakansan]

Originally Posted by Racer_X 070

Are you looking for the total production of 1970 GTO's with a RAIV and 4 speed, that number is 627 hardtops. I would recommend looking at the www.gtojudgeregistry.com website, you can register your car through that website and help you with numbers of cars that have survived. Also, if you are on Facebook, there is a Facebook group called 1970 & 1971 GTO Judge Registry & Ram Air Cars. Good information in the group.

My car is an automatic and I know there where 140 hardtops built with RAIV and TH400 but I can´t find any information about how many of these was The Judge.