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09-29-2022, 07:41 AM
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You Don't See One of These Every Day!
A local customer brought this by the shop a couple of weeks ago. We've been trying to get together to "fix" the carb on it for almost a year now. I was shocked when i saw it, unmolested original every where. He didn't remember ever touching the carburetor and is the original owner.
The car had been off and taken apart decades ago however, and had some "issues". When I removed it there was an late model Olds gasket under it, it had some internal issues as well, and ALL the threads for the fuel filter housing came out with it. It took a little longer than usual (cash and carry Friday's) for a Friday morning job. I usually have them in and out of here in a couple of hours. The car was amazngly stock, still had the TSC hooked up and working, when most of those were amputated before the vehicle reached it's first birthday. Can't say as I've ever seen a nicer unrestored Judge in my time. It had a little over 50,000 original miles on the clock and the only thing the owner ever remmebered having done to it was replace the timing set early on when the plastic coated top gear failed...........
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#2
09-29-2022, 08:02 AM
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Wow, that is sweet!!!
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#3
09-29-2022, 08:04 AM
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Beautiful car!!!
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#4
09-29-2022, 08:32 AM
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I see:Rare underhood lamp, Really neat original Endura "paint", Unfaded side markers & Red Centercaps
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#5
09-29-2022, 08:36 AM
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Wow, must have been really fun to work on an unmolested car like that. Really special. One thing that jumped out to me in the pics was the secondary air valve flap lockout still in place. Been years since I saw one of those still attached by it's roll pin. Bet it ran great when you were done with it. How much crap was in the float bowl after 52 years?
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09-29-2022, 08:43 AM
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Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom V.
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09-29-2022, 08:43 AM
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Very Nice!
Noticed only one outside mirror. (and chrome) Also no front spoiler. (early Judge?) 
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#8
09-29-2022, 09:40 AM
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Wow!
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09-29-2022, 10:02 AM
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Beauty of a car!! Is that the original choke pull off?
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#10
09-29-2022, 10:26 AM
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Very cool! Detailed pics of that motor could be a great resource for someone doing a restoration too. Maybe put them in the GTO forum with a sticky?
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09-29-2022, 11:20 AM
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Wow, that is sweet
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09-29-2022, 11:54 AM
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09-29-2022, 12:41 PM
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very cool!!
As someone who hopes (dreams?) to one day own an original/unmolested original Pontiac of this vintage, it's nice to know they are still out there. Thanks for sharing this Cliff!
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#14
09-29-2022, 01:32 PM
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Interesting to see the original panel gaps and alignment.
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09-29-2022, 01:51 PM
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Wow, Thank you Cliff for shating this with us. Detailed photos of this Indian would be a great resource.
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09-29-2022, 02:14 PM
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Another vote for a photo shoot of this car for research purposes ... make it happen Cliff
I've still got the original secondary lockout on mine ... is it a thing to remove them?
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09-29-2022, 03:51 PM
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Notice finish on vent tube to air cleaner/RA tub. Also intake paint seems very good for 52 year old car. Possibly "refreshed" at some point? Thanks for sharing very interesting.
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#18
09-29-2022, 04:12 PM
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Wow.. amazing condition.
Agree it would be cool to photo the entire car. For example, are the fuel tank straps finished in black zinc  ?
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#19
09-29-2022, 09:57 PM
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Also have a 70 GTO Endura with grilles. 70 Judge dash with emblem. Kinda afraid to look at them. There were in a shed rats got into and I have not pulled them out in awhile. |
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#20
09-29-2022, 10:17 PM
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Super cool!! Cash and carry days seem like a nice deal!
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