[Ed Fitzgerald]

Fellas what do you think would be the quicker car on the 1/4 mile against a 67 FB convertible against a 68 Camaro. The FB will be a .060 over 350 (366) 9.5 CR with nodular steel crank and 4130 rods. Roller cam with 220 Int/228 ex @.050 with .531/.553 lift on a 112 LC. Mildly ported (street) 48 (65cc) heads (crossovers filled)with a performer (gasket matched) and 750 Holley. Hedman 1 3/4 husler headers with 2 1/2 'X " pipe exhaust. 200r4 with a stage 1 kit and 2200 stall. 17" tires with Nitto radials and 3:55 posi rear gear. I am thinking 350 Hp for the bird. The Camaro is originally a 396 (375 hp) that was reworked and bottom end done with the best parts also. Aluminum heads with a Holley 750 and a torquer intake. Big cam (288 thumper?? roller cam) and 9.5 CR . M22 muncie with a set of 3.90 or 4.11's. Non stock rear gears. Probably making 500 hp??? We were talking the other night and he mentioned he had been by my place several times to show me the completed car but I wasn't home. he commented how fast it was and he asked about the FB. I said it was going to be ready again this spring with the 326 swapped out in place of the 366 and I thought it should be impressive. Well he thinks that the Camaro would walk all over the FB but I remember a 68 350 HO FB back in high school a buddy had and it worked well. So how bad do you think the Camaro will beat the Bird???? Ed

[FrankieT/A]

That's a no brainer, the FB is gonna get killed. Your buddie's mistake was building a 396 when a 454 weighs the same. Your mistake was building a 350 when a 455 weighs the same. I'm a Pontiac guy through and through but the 350 Pontiac is not really a good starting point. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but the cost to build either a 350 or a 455 costs about the same. But with a 400 or a 455 it get more HP and torque right off the bat before you spend a dime. JMO

[Ed Fitzgerald]

You think it will be that noticable a difference. I thought with the automatic and the shift kit that it may put the hp to the ground better off the line then at the end the 396 would get it. Ed

[FrankieT/A]

Well, he has big block aluminum heads, regardless his combo will flow better as long as tune is good. Plus more inches. I think you would have a better chance if your engine were a 350 Chevy that could twist to 7500 RPM.

[ta man]

Camaro should run in the 12's Yours maybe 13's you could get closer if...you up your stall convertor to a 3000,get rid of the 17 inch rims at the track and run 15 inch rims and a set of Drag Radials,many ifs though does your buddy know how to tune?can he shift,can he launch a standard,does he have adequate fuel supply?I've seen a few big block 500hp Chevy at the tracks all big and mean struggle to get into the 12's...

[Ed Fitzgerald]

TA Man, that's the big thing about that Camaro I don't think he can get all the power to the ground. I know for sure he won't floor shift it for fear of blowing it up as it is a #'s matching car. I also know he won't beat on it too hard as it is absolutely stunning. I have a flat spot by my house where we ran Stage 1 Buicks back in the 80's and got up to speeds of 130-140 mph and shut them down safely. So we won't be running at a strip with all the slicks and race fuel, etc. I would expect about the same result as your'e saying that being that his car would be a full sec or so faster on the 1/4. But from light to light he may be sucking the hind tit. Ed

[FrankieT/A]

If you're racing on the street he will never hook and you will be able to feather the gas. You may have a shot in that respect.

[Ed Fitzgerald]

Sorry for the confusion fellas, I was talking about the unsanctioned 1/4 on the street. I fully understand that at the strip with everything equal in traction and all "There is no replacement for displacement" but I was referring to in street terms. I know his car is a beast on the street for what it is (he and I have worked on this car for over 30 yrs together) but I don't think he truly respects Pontiac torque and power for what it truly is. I remember when the Buick GN came out and I couldn't believe they were only 6 cyl. Ed

[old66tiger]

the Camaro will do the deal much better than the bird. I am a Pontiac guy, but even if you got him out of the hole, he will blow the doors off the 350 Pontiac on the top end.

[MG12692]

I hate Camaros, but I agree with the advise of others. A big block chevy has proved to be monster on the street and the strip. If his car is set up correctly He is going to be tough to hang with much less beat. Build a stroker 455 then run him.

[Mister Pontiac]

One word... Nitrous.

Install it, and trailer that bowtie.

[FrankieT/A]

Personally I think the 396 is a boat anchor at best.

[FrankieT/A]

Personally I think the 396 is a boat anchor. But the 454 is over square. And screams quite nicely with high torque and revibility.

[Jim Moshier]

This is called bench racing, and everyone has an opinion! Do the deed! and report the out come!!. I have never hung my head if/when I got beat by someone else......it was just their day.

[Half-Inch Stud]

2words Dual Factory Slapper bars.

okay 4 words.