Pontiac - Race The next Level

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-10-2016, 12:40 PM
PontiacMatt72's Avatar
PontiacMatt72 PontiacMatt72 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lawrenceburg, Kentucky
Posts: 1,284
Default Race car gauges/dash setup

Seems simple enough, but curious what most like as far as dash/gauge setup?

Gauge brand/design
Size of gauges
Which gauges are must-have vs. nice-to-have
Where to mount which gauges (inside, outside on cowl, high, low ,etc)
Gauge face color
Mechanical signal vs. electronic

Anything else I may be forgetting?
I understand a lot of it is probably just personal preference, just figured I'd see what other guys like or don't like and take that into consideration.

__________________
Matt
70 GTO 400 4-speed

"Turbos make no noise and leave the line like Baby Diarrhea!" - GTOGeorge
  #2  
Old 11-10-2016, 01:21 PM
Dave Polichena's Avatar
Dave Polichena Dave Polichena is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lake Worth FL
Posts: 551
Default

I have Autometer Pro Comp Mechanical in mine, water temp, oil pressure, vacuum, voltage, trans pressure, Tach ect. If I was starting from scratch, I would go with a Digital Display

__________________
Dave Polichena
  #3  
Old 11-10-2016, 01:43 PM
twooldgoats's Avatar
twooldgoats twooldgoats is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 2,886
Default

I have Autometer Pro-Comp Ultralite and Silverlite (liquid filled). The top two are liquid filled mechanical gauges for oil pressure and water temp (the most important ones) and the lower left is the voltmeter and the lower right is the transmission temp gauge (mechanical). In the lower center is a small digital tach I use for setting idle and checking stall rpm (no time to look during a pass). The center red light indicates the line-loc is on and the upper red light I no longer use (used to be high EGT warning). The big warning light on the steering column is low oil pressure, big enough and bright enough to get my immediate attention.

I also log EGT's all eight cylinders, oil pressure, boost, fuel pressure, rpm, driveshaft speed and G's on a Racepak Sportsman data logger to look at after the pass.

Jim
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Untitled.jpg
Views:	145
Size:	61.9 KB
ID:	440497  

__________________
****'63 Tempest, 475" IAII, Wenzler Super Chief heads, converted to blown alcohol, Birdcatcher, Littlefield 10-71 high helix. Best pass to date: 7.67 @ 181.59 (1/4 mi.), 4.95 @ 143.67 (1/8 mi.), 1.18 (60 ft)

7.75 @ 178 pass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iez3...ature=youtu.be

First seven second pass(7.98): https://wwwoutube.com/watch?v=DK17...ature=youtu.be



Thanks to Paul Carter @ Koerner Racing Engines




  #4  
Old 11-10-2016, 02:27 PM
ho428's Avatar
ho428 ho428 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 2,687
Default

I went with Quickcar
http://www.quickcar.com/61-6031-gaug...ing-light-kit/

I added an oil temp gauge to these three, and with the warning lights they are all I've needed.
They offer a lot of different packages though.

  #5  
Old 11-10-2016, 03:26 PM
racegto65's Avatar
racegto65 racegto65 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
Posts: 653
Default

Matt, what are you planing for a dash or mount?
My race car is a '65 GTO and it has a pretty simple
aluminum dash in it. Autometer guages.
I'll take some pictures this weekend and pm them to you.
Might give you some ideas.

Bill

  #6  
Old 11-10-2016, 03:27 PM
LT's Avatar
LT LT is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: San Antonio, Texas,USA
Posts: 49
Default

Speedhut

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900AZ using Tapatalk

  #7  
Old 11-10-2016, 04:33 PM
PontiacMatt72's Avatar
PontiacMatt72 PontiacMatt72 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lawrenceburg, Kentucky
Posts: 1,284
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by racegto65 View Post
Matt, what are you planing for a dash or mount?
My race car is a '65 GTO and it has a pretty simple
aluminum dash in it. Autometer guages.
I'll take some pictures this weekend and pm them to you.
Might give you some ideas.

Bill
I'll be doing something similar, just a simple aluminum dash.

__________________
Matt
70 GTO 400 4-speed

"Turbos make no noise and leave the line like Baby Diarrhea!" - GTOGeorge
  #8  
Old 11-10-2016, 06:00 PM
PontiacMatt72's Avatar
PontiacMatt72 PontiacMatt72 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lawrenceburg, Kentucky
Posts: 1,284
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ho428 View Post
I went with Quickcar
http://www.quickcar.com/61-6031-gaug...ing-light-kit/

I added an oil temp gauge to these three, and with the warning lights they are all I've needed.
They offer a lot of different packages though.
Very cool, I like what I see there... i'd like to do something like this, warning lights would be handy. Any other companies do anything similar?

__________________
Matt
70 GTO 400 4-speed

"Turbos make no noise and leave the line like Baby Diarrhea!" - GTOGeorge
  #9  
Old 11-10-2016, 09:24 PM
BruceWilkie BruceWilkie is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Posts: 9,132
Default

YES warning lights! Years ago when I went with the big Autometer tach with shift lite I quickly found the light more useful than watching the tach. The light really improved my consistancy. I later went with a smaller tach(Sun super tach II) and a separate shift light. I like mechanical gauges(good accurate results with both Sun and Autometer) and when possible warning lights to direct your attention to the gauge.

  #10  
Old 11-11-2016, 01:08 PM
PontiacMatt72's Avatar
PontiacMatt72 PontiacMatt72 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lawrenceburg, Kentucky
Posts: 1,284
Default

I agree Bruce.

I thought I wanted a big analog(needle) tach, but wonder about digital... pros/cons?
Suggestions for digital tachs that I can check out?

__________________
Matt
70 GTO 400 4-speed

"Turbos make no noise and leave the line like Baby Diarrhea!" - GTOGeorge
  #11  
Old 11-11-2016, 05:09 PM
GTO Dan's Avatar
GTO Dan GTO Dan is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Long Island/South NJ
Posts: 2,496
Default

Mine is attached. Autometer Sports Comp. Tach, oil, water, volts, oil temp. On the steering column is the shift light and an innovate AFR guage (hard to see in the pic). I'll likely get a brake pressure guage in the spring.

But if I was starting over I'd get the Racepak.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image.jpg
Views:	142
Size:	73.8 KB
ID:	440566  


Last edited by GTO Dan; 11-11-2016 at 05:17 PM.
  #12  
Old 11-11-2016, 09:02 PM
ventura7211's Avatar
ventura7211 ventura7211 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 1,626
Default

I went to upgrade my gauges, but with the racepak it was actually cheaper to buy a dash than new guages.

The sensors cost about what a good gauge will cost, and if you want it to be displayed by a guage, you're going to want to log that measurement going down the track.

The dash can also display warnings and flash warning lights like low oil pressure. It can also flash as a shift light, but I use one in connected to the MSD as its easier to change since I'm in the box in between rounds and almost never in the dash changing settings.




  #13  
Old 11-13-2016, 03:15 PM
WARPed's Avatar
WARPed WARPed is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Seminole, FL
Posts: 2,774
Default

RacePak

http://www.racepak.com/collections/d...nt=18332654339
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ldx.jpg
Views:	42
Size:	28.9 KB
ID:	440694  

__________________
1994 Formula
535ci NA CV-1 - single 1050 with c14 - 940hp@7000/825tq@5200
Pontiac Powered 4th Gen Project Progress



  #14  
Old 11-14-2016, 02:29 AM
racegto65's Avatar
racegto65 racegto65 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
Posts: 653
Default

Matt, here are some pictures of the dash in my '65.
Simple but functional.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20161113_183325.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	58.3 KB
ID:	440728   Click image for larger version

Name:	20161113_183336.jpg
Views:	71
Size:	41.1 KB
ID:	440729   Click image for larger version

Name:	20161113_183401.jpg
Views:	58
Size:	47.2 KB
ID:	440730  

  #15  
Old 11-14-2016, 10:17 AM
Mr Anonymous's Avatar
Mr Anonymous Mr Anonymous is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Waynesville, OH
Posts: 397
Default

I am usually a huge fan of mechanical gauges, but I went 100% electric on my latest car. I remove 4 screws, unplug a connector, and that part of the dash is out of the car. I have my main electrical junctions behind that part of the dash, and easy removability is a plus.

__________________
Clutch Guys Matter
_______________________________________
53 Studebaker, 400P/th400/9"
64 F-85
72 4-4-2 Mondello's VO Twister II
84 Hurst/Olds #2449
87 Cutlass Salon
54 Olds 88 sedan
  #16  
Old 11-19-2016, 12:17 PM
Bob with the 66's Avatar
Bob with the 66 Bob with the 66 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Motor city outsider, MI
Posts: 1,124
Default

Here is my old school gauges for my old school project.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20151205_154931.jpg
Views:	81
Size:	51.3 KB
ID:	441036  

__________________
"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity".

1966 GTO Post Coupe, 467ci. N/A Pump gas, best 1/4 11.6 118mph
1966 GTO Post Coupe, "The Bright Idea" 535ci. N/A Pump gas, best 1/4 9.58 141mph
  #17  
Old 11-19-2016, 03:24 PM
PontiacMatt72's Avatar
PontiacMatt72 PontiacMatt72 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lawrenceburg, Kentucky
Posts: 1,284
Default

I like it.

I've decided that I too like the old school look of some gauges.

Happened upon a killer deal on a matching set of autometer gauges, all new in their boxes still so I picked em up. Got pro comp 2 silver face memory tach w/ shift light, and matching water temp, oil pressure, trans temp, fuel pressure, and nitrous pressure (which I may or may not need). I'd like to pick up a voltage gauge and a wideband air/fuel gauge as well.

That being said, I like the idea of a data recorder, so I want to eventually pick up a Racepak Sportsman Data Logger.

Only concern is the fuel pressure, water temp and oil pressure gauges are all liquid-filled... figured on mounting the gauges in the dash, except fuel gauge will probably be mounted on the cowl? But I've heard good and bad about liquid filled gauges so not sure how I feel about that yet... figure I'll give em a shot.

__________________
Matt
70 GTO 400 4-speed

"Turbos make no noise and leave the line like Baby Diarrhea!" - GTOGeorge
  #18  
Old 11-19-2016, 04:02 PM
Bob with the 66's Avatar
Bob with the 66 Bob with the 66 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Motor city outsider, MI
Posts: 1,124
Default

I went with the same tach, with shift light, red oil pressure, & blue water temperature warning lights. On track I don't read gauges, but warning lights will get my attention.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20151115_203517.jpg
Views:	69
Size:	57.8 KB
ID:	441044  

__________________
"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity".

1966 GTO Post Coupe, 467ci. N/A Pump gas, best 1/4 11.6 118mph
1966 GTO Post Coupe, "The Bright Idea" 535ci. N/A Pump gas, best 1/4 9.58 141mph
  #19  
Old 11-19-2016, 07:03 PM
Old Man Taylor's Avatar
Old Man Taylor Old Man Taylor is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Escondido, CA, USA
Posts: 6,945
Default

I'm a little late to the party. In the dash I have water temp, fuel pressure, oil pressure, trans oil temp, voltmeter, and a gas gauge that I later changed to a vacuum gauge. Below the dash is a brake pressure gauge.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Tempest Dash Inside.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	67.5 KB
ID:	441053  

  #20  
Old 11-26-2016, 03:37 PM
Johannsson's Avatar
Johannsson Johannsson is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Iceland
Posts: 11
Default

My 65's...
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	070210 008.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	65.6 KB
ID:	441379   Click image for larger version

Name:	15138576_1231429146918311_7006107730400815314_o.jpg
Views:	65
Size:	72.8 KB
ID:	441380  

__________________
1965 Pontiac GTO 389 Tri Power 4 speed
1965 Pontiac GTO 517 N/A (5.17/135mph 1.17 60f)
1965 Pontiac Tempest N/A 428 (9.81/138mph )
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:38 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017