[Mike S]

I was at the track (Cecil county) today for my index race. They had the F.A.S.T. cars running. Those cars are impressive. An older vet set the national record at 9.0 something can't remember but it ran 151 mph. I was looking over these cars and everything is factory appearing down to stock battery. How can you get that much power down with factory bias ply tires? I would love to know the details on what they do to make that much hp, and hide it.

[PAUL K]

That's impressive. I believe the fast BBC's are making over 950 through manifolds. They tried slicks on the orange Camaro and it slowed down..... How did they sound?

[unruhjonny]

the Factory Appearing Stock Tire cars ARE impressive;
Unfortunately, unlike the PSMCD, that series is essentially “if you can’t see it, it’s ok”, which can also be read as, “the deeper your pockets, the faster you go”.

[sdbob]

I wonder also. I talked to Jim Mino years ago about this,he noticed some cars had tire on their quarter panels much like from regular slicks. I also heard that you can put some kind of solution 'inside'the tire that will increase traction making the tire softer. I wonder? The whole car is well 'scienced ' out.

[mgarblik]

There are some Youtube videos where current and former F.A.S.T. competitors have "tell all" sessions and/or show and tell sessions of all the modifications done to the cars and engines to make them stock appearing rockets!. Of course you are seeing bits and pieces of years of development, testing, and proving on the track. A "tell all" video isn't going to show everything. From what I watched, I found it similar to what the serious "heavy hitters" perform on Record Setting Super Stock and Competition Eliminator race cars. Thousands of hours invested in the fastest cars and $$$$ investments I can't even imagine. I have friends who are competitive in Stock and Super Stock. Spending 30K on a pair of iron heads is entry point stuff if you want to be in the mix to win a Wally.

[JLBIII]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/12ER4NHYjkY/

[Skip Fix]

I will start that I love these cars all brands,even the Vette's. There is some debate among other class members if the Vette's should actually be allowed in the class as they are a fiberglass, 2 seat "sports car", with a stock engine setback. Vs a steel car usually with a rear seat and motor up further so less rear weight even bias. I can defintiely see the argument for all the other models. Lots of drag classes have engine setback rules.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Skip Fix

I will start that I love these cars all brands,even the Vette's. There is some debate among other class members if the Vette's should actually be allowed in the class as they are a fiberglass, 2 seat "sports car", with a stock engine setback. Vs a steel car usually with a rear seat and motor up further so less rear weight even bias. I can defintiely see the argument for all the other models. Lots of drag classes have engine setback rules.

The Camaro just buried the old record! I'm thinking it was done to prove it isn't a two seat, fiberglass body that's the key to the excellent performance..... IMO money, effort and skill are most likely the theee biggest requirements.

[Jay S]

The air at Cecil must have been crazy good that weekend . A 340 Duster ran a 10.18@133. Pennington ran a 9.38@147 with the orange Camaro, and I noticed it is a L78 396 based combo instead of the all aluminum ZL1 that it had in it before. The L78 seems like it is more in the spirit of the class.

Money, effort, skill, and I hazard to guess, the biggest reason why some go so quick are those grid systems. One of our local racers in his BBC fox body just went 4.38@180mph in the 1/8 on 8.5x26 tires. It is amazing much power they get to the ground using those grids.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

The Camaro just buried the old record! I'm thinking it was done to prove it isn't a two seat, fiberglass body that's the key to the excellent performance..... IMO money, effort and skill are most likely the theee biggest requirements.

Skip I stand corrected the orange Camaro ran 9.3 and the Corvette went 9.0

[Mike S]

These cars are quiet. Heard louder cars at a car show. The 9 sec cars where louder than the 11 sec cars but not by much. The DA started at -400 and ended up at +400 before it started going back down. I heard all the vetts where one family. I would like to know what they 60 with those tires. I would like to see what you can't see.
I have to agree, that they have a whole lot of money in these cars.

[Jay S]

This is the time slip for the record breaking pass of the black L88 vette

[Dragncar]

How do you win a race with a .261 reaction time ?

[Jay S]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

How do you win a race with a .261 reaction time ?

It is all heads up racing and the quickest ET is what is used for qualifying, They are not concerned about the reaction time until eliminations.

The dark red Pennington C2 Vette is on average quicker than the black C3.

[Dragncar]

Qualifying is where you practice your reaction times.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Jay S

Money, effort, skill, and I hazard to guess, the biggest reason why some go so quick are those grid systems. One of our local racers in his BBC fox body just went 4.38@180mph in the 1/8 on 8.5x26 tires. It is amazing much power they get to the ground using those grids.

What's a grid system?

K

[Jay S]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

What's a grid system?

K

MSD Power grid systems, small tire cars, and many F.A.S.T. racers are using them to control the timing to get traction. The ARC modules and Davis traction controls plug in to the grid system and give another level of power timing ( and fuel) for better traction. The grids are legel for most stuff, but the plugs in’s like the ARC modules are outlawed in a lot of racing series, they got outlawed because they make the car ultra consistent. Some of the index racers are using grids to slow their cars down to run the index. Big money races there are random checks to see if anything is (or has been) plugged into the grid system that might not be legal.



https://www.holley.com/blog/post/go_...aAWqEHJLjRkjBt

[Jay S]

The power grid system with the ARC modules works similar to the MSD7 with the slew control, except with the grid it does it for the entire length of the track.

[72projectbird]

Originally Posted by Jay S

This is the time slip for the record breaking pass of the black L88 vette

Gawd Dayum that's one sexy car! Doesn't get much sleeker than a black C3 bumper car.

[sdbob]

I'm wondering could nitrous be used in some form not normally used,let's say an additive to the engine oil. Or is it just scienced out engine design? And cubic $$$$