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Old 09-28-2015, 01:33 AM
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Default What's this engine?

I'm putting this in the 'RACE' forum, since it was racing at ECTA's Wilmington meet this weekend. The engine was in a beautiful Chevy coupe (1940?). Anybody know anything about it?
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:37 AM
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With it being painted all black it's hard to tell, but if it is a Pontiac block in there then I would guess that the heads are KRE warp 6 babies!

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Old 09-28-2015, 06:56 AM
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Nope, not a Pontiac.

I just saw this engine, it is a BBC derivative.
Can't think of the guy's name right now.
(was a Pontiac engineer)

Just remembered, it was John Callies.

He makes/built the heads, why he calls it a Pontiac don't know.
His name is cast on the side of the heads.

Uses a Merlin block also I think.


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Old 09-28-2015, 11:56 AM
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I love the valve covers.

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Old 09-28-2015, 06:21 PM
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I love the valve covers.
Ditto.

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Old 09-28-2015, 07:23 PM
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There was a Pontiac engineer John Callies who built a early Simca(30's?) with a real Pontiac 303(iirc) TA/ RA5 motor way back in the late 70's-early 80's that was featured in HRM... Probably same guy.

The injector spacing seems a bit off to be a RA5 head yet a bit too far to be a regular BBC head. Almost looks like big Ford spacing(557 is a common stroker kit for 460 type Ford)

Agree, the valve covers are sweet!

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Old 09-28-2015, 07:45 PM
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Nope, not a Pontiac.

I just saw this engine, it is a BBC derivative.
Can't think of the guy's name right now.
(was a Pontiac engineer)

Just remembered, it was John Callies.

He makes/built the heads, why he calls it a Pontiac don't know.
His name is cast on the side of the heads.

Uses a Merlin block also I think.

Right.
There is nothing Pontiac about that engine,except for the name on the valve cover.
So why call it one?

http://johncalliesinc.com/test_products.php


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Old 09-28-2015, 09:09 PM
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I think some of you racers may know more about this then I do but for a certain NHRA class of racing they came out with a BBC that was classified as a Chevy engine because it had a Pontiac part number on the cylinder heads. This was just done for some weird NHRA rule to call it a Chevy although we Pontiac people know better. Several years ago there was an all Pontiac event in Tucson Arizona and there was a guy there in a Vega with a BBC in it and it had those Pontiac heads on it. All the Pontiac guys protested and they ruled that it could compete because under NHRA rules it was a Pontiac. Anyhow in the finals I took this Vega out with my 65 LeMans and was a hero by the Pontiac guys because they would not have been happy if this Vega with a BBC in it would have one the event.

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Congrats on kicking that chevy's @ss!


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Write up says Keith Block Aluminum "Skirted" Racing Block with "one-off" Callies Cylinder heads. Basically an upgrade over a "Pontiac" DRCE engine.

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Old 09-29-2015, 01:17 AM
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Thanks everybody for the help. I sure wish I'd been at Wilmington to see that car in person.

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