[Carmine]

That auction for the '71 I make mention of, ended this afternoon. High bid was $21,600.00. Reserve not met. Last time it listed, high bid was $28,000.00. I think we'll be seeing it again on ebay. I just finished reading an article in a GTO publication that the author stated GTO prices have stabilized; maybe even come down some. What is the consensus of opinion here?? Thanks, Carmine.

[NEW64OWNER]

That's a good looking 71 30 minutes from you, very good price if it is what they say.

[Matt Meaney]

that '71 on ebay is listed on their own website for 37K. being a bigger dealer, not likely much wiggle room in that price. looking around their site a little, it's one of the lower priced cars they have, to boot. someone with too much money will end up with it eventually.

[tripower]

Originally Posted by Diego

I don't believe the interior color determined the stripe color.

Based on? Have you even owned any of these cars? The two factory D98 cars I've have owned as well as others in this forum who I've spoken with about this topic before have the same striping color scheme. While it would be nice to have, sometimes it's not all about a piece of factory documentation that has to be produced.

[Diego]

Originally Posted by tripower

Based on?

Based on:

1. The default stripe colors for 1972 that John Wallace posted had nothing to do with the interior color.

2. The default 1970 Judge stripe colors you posted had nothing to do with the interior color.

3. Since there were other interior colors besides black or white (below), how do you reconcile the fact that neither stripe choice matches most other interior colors?



4. Black or white match any color, so either stripe choice generally would work for any color aside of black or white.

5. There are plenty of instances of of cars with white interiors and black stripes, and vice versa.

Have you even owned any of these cars?

Ownership is moot in this discussion.

[tripower]

Originally Posted by Diego

Based on:

1. The default stripe colors for 1972 that John Wallace posted had nothing to do with the interior color.

I'm referencing a stripe option that was available in two colors in 71.

Originally Posted by Diego

2. The default 1970 Judge stripe colors you posted had nothing to do with the interior color.

Try again, actually it was a 71 I posted, not a 70.

Originally Posted by Diego

3. Since there were other interior colors besides black or white (below), how do you reconcile the fact that neither stripe choice matches most other interior colors?

Again, not sure on the interior colors outside black or sandalwood/ivory for 71.

Originally Posted by Diego

4. Black or white match any color, so either stripe choice generally would work for any color aside of black or white.

Of course

Originally Posted by Diego

5. There are plenty of instances of of cars with white interiors and black stripes, and vice versa.

Can you otherwise show any instances of this with any 71 Non-Judges D98 cars? Please do. I can but this is way off topic here and not worth it at this point.

Originally Posted by Diego

Ownership is moot in this discussion.

Disagree, owners typically take the time to research what they have, especially when trying focusing on getting their cars right.

[Diego]

Originally Posted by tripower

I'm referencing a stripe option that was available in two colors in 71.

That's correct, but did you notice the '72 stripe choices didn't specify an interior color?

Try again, actually it was a 71 I posted, not a 70.

Regardless, my point still stands - Pontiac didn't specify an interior color for the Judge stripes for any year.

Can you otherwise show any instances of this with any 71 Non-Judges D98 cars?

Never paid attention to the interior colors because they've never been a factor in my mind.

Disagree, owners typically take the time to research what they have, especially when trying focusing on getting their cars right.

Plenty of people own cars and are full of it.

Likewise, plenty of people don't own certain cars but enjoy the minutiae.

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by Matt Meaney

this is still on craigslist. did you ever get to see it?

https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/5859235329.html

Beautiful, fully restored GTO in tropical lime green, a complet numbers matching car, 242 vin, a true must see. Call joe 845 629-6234

I did put a call in last night, left message and my phone number, but haven't heard back yet. If we can make contact, I would definitely go see it. That is a different color; especially for me. I don't recall seeing it before, but it is a stock color, Carmine.

[tripower]

I'll have to concede to Diego's point regarding the stripe color on the early 71 eyebrow stripes being based on paint color versus interior. Nothing I can find in any of the factory literature or parts manuals suggest either but for other years it does. Also going through old pics I have of original early 71 D98 cars there are cars with black interiors with the white stripes.

Here is what I have from pics and other forum members here:

Starlight Black - red/white
Cameo White - red/black
Quezal Gold - red/black
Canyon Copper - red/white
Castillian Bronze - red/white
Aztec Gold - red/white

That is best effort

[Diego]

I do know a Mopar that determined the default stripe color based on the interior (as a secondary consideration):

[CraigGT37]

Tripower,
My Tropical Lime GT-37 had red/white stripes on it originally. It has Dark Jade green interior.

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by CraigGT37

Tripower,
My Tropical Lime GT-37 had red/white stripes on it originally. It has Dark Jade green interior.

Would you happen to have a pic of it?? Thanks, Carmine.

[John Eiseman]

Heres another 71 Portland, Or. CL. Not mineost id: 5857870014

[John Eiseman]

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/5857870014.html

[UPC-WU2]

A little Photoshop and the Rosewood car now has Red/White stripes, which looks a hundred times better, in my opinion. Especially with the white GTO decals.

When I redo my Rosewood car it's getting red/white stripes instead of red/black. (unless some positive documentation shows up to make me go red/black)

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by John Eiseman

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/5857870014.html

Thanks John. That appears to be a very nice car. Very good price in my opinion. A lot done to it. I do like it. I wouldn't rule it out, but Oregon?? Hmmm............

Let me ask this also. Chances are good that when I do find one I want, it won't be in my backyard. With my luck, it will be a healthy distance away; such as this one. I would never fly to Portland to personally inspect the car, so either a knowledgeable club member or professional inspector would have to look at it. If everything was in order and you agreed to buy the car at a given price, how do or would you arrange payment??? I know the majority of owners want full payment before the car leaves their property, but that leaves someone like me with nothing. The owner in Portland will have my car and money and me in NY has nothing. I'm just not comfortable with doing it this way. Is there something like an escrow account that can be established to keep everyone honest?? How do others do this?? I've bought cars before a distance away and always sent full payment. Admittedly, it was a leap of faith. I had no problems but I don't feel like rolling the dice again. I would really like to hear from others re. this issue. Thank you, Carmine.

[John Eiseman]

Ive seen this car off and on CL for maybe 6 monthes or more. If your interested in the car after talking to the owner, I can take a close look for you as time permits.Ive owned one 72 GTO post car and know a bit about them.

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by John Eiseman

Ive seen this car off and on CL for maybe 6 monthes or more. If your interested in the car after talking to the owner, I can take a close look for you as time permits.Ive owned one 72 GTO post car and know a bit about them.

Thank you very much John. I may take you up on that, Carmine.

[tripower]

Originally Posted by CraigGT37

Tripower,
My Tropical Lime GT-37 had red/white stripes on it originally. It has Dark Jade green interior.

Thanks Craig! Keeping a running list:

Tropical Lime Green - red/white
Starlight Black - red/white
Cameo White - red/black
Quezal Gold - red/black
Canyon Copper - red/white
Castillian Bronze - red/white
Aztec Gold - red/white

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by tripower

Thanks Craig! Keeping a running list:

Tropical Lime Green - red/white
Starlight Black - red/white
Cameo White - red/black
Quezal Gold - red/black
Canyon Copper - red/white
Castillian Bronze - red/white
Aztec Gold - red/white

Have to ask because I'm going to be looking at a '71 GTO, tropical lime green, soon. Are the above stripes just for GT-37 or could they be ordered on a GTO?? Would anyone have a pic of the red/white stripe on a tropical lime green car they could post please. Thank you, Carmine.