[70peppergreen]

I was on the Judge forum and seen a great article about a silver 70 judge on e bay right now

what caught my eye was that BARRON VON ZEPPELIN had talked about 1970 Vin and Build dates he stated 2 vin and dates i thought maby we can get a vin and producation date for 1970 Pontiacs ( Is GTO too limiting ?)
He nicely wrote P137XXX is Earlyish October 1969

My 70 Gto is P228XXX last week Feb 1970

He nicely wrote P240XXX mid to late April of 1970

If anyone has dates and month to add i would gladley put in an Excell Spread sheet

[455conv]

Yeah, mine is P270XXX and is the last day of may 1970

[tripower]

Of course this would be only for Pontiac MI assembled cars.

[70peppergreen]

yes Pontiac mi only thanks for that

[Shiny]

Forgive my ignorance, but are these VIN sequences different for GTO than other models?

My LeMans is 235370P118xxx and date code 09C (3rd week Sept if I understand correctly)

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Shiny

Forgive my ignorance, but are these VIN sequences different for GTO than other models?

My LeMans is 235370P118xxx and date code 09C (3rd week Sept if I understand correctly)

No. VIN sequences are different between plants, and then different for brands (Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, GMC, Cadillac) within the same plant.

K

[Keith Seymore]

Be advised that Pontiac plant cars were not built in strict VIN order. You all are quoting the build week specific to the body (not the final assembly).

The Pontiac plant had an accumulator, such that bodies could be sorted or re-sequences after paint and before being released to the final line. This allowed for work load balancing (can't have too many tripowers in a row, or too many manual trans in a row, or too many A/C cars in a row, etc). It also allowed them to hold up a car if parts were not available, like a special engine, or to remove and then cut in a particular car back into the stream. We've seen build information that states "body in Aisle" or "cut in after 1xxxxx".

I say all this to point out that cars did not flow directly from the body shop through to the end of the line; in some cases the build could be delayed or re-shuffled.

K

[4SLASH6]

at tcap (twin cities assembly) we had an area in paint that would hold like 36 units (bodies) in case of a back up from chassis, final assembly, etc....sometimes these units would sit for days before being reshuffled back in. these areas known as 'kitty's" were located plant wide and were drawn into use daily as different lunch times, break downs etc.. ..they would allow continuous (gap less) movement wherever possible.

[peppergreen]

For your sheet, 242370P202xxx. 3rd week Jan 1970

[kylek350]

233270P296XXX - 2nd week June '70, shipped 6/23

242370P189XXX - Unknown body tag, but shipped 12/18/69

The second car no longer exists. I bought the complete WA engine and ran the PHS out of curiosity.


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