[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by lemans411

dont you remember i'm ignorant, i never said they wouldnt produce. even
for example, im just playing devils advocate i guess, lets see proof come on get it done and run it down the track , come on already whats taking so long! lmao um... ill drag you down the track um... midwest pontiacs to the front m.f. didthatjusthappen!? omg! ok im done

for now,
****ing retards
love, Rob

They would say "have you been drinking?"...

someone with "impeccable qualifications" can miss their mark or lose 60 hp on a customers head and intake upgrade

didthatjusthappen?

I heard it really did happen and it cost the customer extra... for someone else to fix... dont know that this "impecably qualified" person made good on the situation.

I wouldnt be as quiet about it if I LOST 60 hp after an expensive upgrade... even if the guy is "impeccably qualified"! I guess not having a helper he's soley at fault.

I'm hopin the "impeccably qualified" person made things right with the customer. Or plans to.

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by cgeise

Funny you ask it that way. Bottom line is your Insurance and the premium will be dictated by you past actions and there subsiquent results, good or bad. So if your a bone head and do things that hurt people or cost your current company claims monies then your going to pay more for less. On the other hand keep it straight and clean and you get a better deal. All anyone can do is go on past performance as an indicator of future events. If Ferrari said it was going to introduce a new super car there would be excitement all over the world -- If Ugo was to announce the same thing, People would at the very least be highly suspect. I hope that helps you "get it"

LOL.

[Stan Weiss]

Gaby is link with Lil Jack

Lil Jack has been the chief ball buster of almost everyone else's combination

you shall reap what you sow

Stan

[7T2]

Originally Posted by cgeise

Bottom line is your Insurance and the premium will be dictated by you past actions and there subsiquent results, good or bad.

sooo,
if my product has the longest warranty in the applicative market, and there are no returns on design isues, this should be an insurance panacea,,, right?

if so, then why, as an agent, do you continue your campaign of slash and burn of new products, before they are tested??

[GTO Tiger 572]

Since some of the top Pontiac builds are pushing the 1200 hp mark now these heads should make 1300+ NA or why do it in my opinion. They look awesome and I hope they can set a new record etc etc. I don't see a huge market for the heads regardless of what power they eventually make. It Should be the head to have for all out racing. With that being said who here thinks they will ever sell more than 10 sets? 11k for a bare set of heads is not in the budget for any Pontiac racers I know. Then you still have to get them finished plus the cost of everything else to use these heads let alone make them work well.

I see the market for what it is, there are maybe 4 or 5 guys on these forums that would maybe step up and use these heads, this is why being a billet head is a good idea, you simply won't sell many. I hope I'm wrong.

With the other make of heads available making 800-1000 hp I don't see these heads being a player in the street car market to increase the market share potential.

I know these are not intended to be a street car head but maybe the street version will be cheaper, I don't see how because cnc time is cnc time, it knows no difference from a race head or a street head.


I'd like to see a poll on how many people would actually buy these heads, say they make 1300 hp with relative ease, how many of us would buy them?

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by lemans411

sure are a lot of tough words for a one off set of heads that arent even assembled yet. lol they look sweet i hope they perform half as good as they look, but isnt this how a lot of cv1 bashing began? unsubstantiated claims? lol whatever this is way different i guess, good luck on the new combo im sure it will be impressive. oh and 1 question ? does gaby actually PORT heads ? or ... does he forward them to the guy that actually ports them? ( middle man) serious question no disrespect intended.

I have pictures on my old phone that he sent me with him porting my heads and assembling my motor with the blue and white background at his shop.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

They would say "have you been drinking?"...



didthatjusthappen?

I heard it really did happen and it cost the customer extra... for someone else to fix... dont know that this "impecably qualified" person made good on the situation.

I wouldnt be as quiet about it if I LOST 60 hp after an expensive upgrade... even if the guy is "impeccably qualified"! I guess not having a helper he's soley at fault.

I'm hopin the "impeccably qualified" person made things right with the customer. Or plans to.

There is a lot of power to make and loose in a bottom end and camshaft. The heads and intake are just one part of the puzzle.

If Dick lost 50 HP with the same package that Jeff and I have on our cars something is wrong with the builder sorry to say it, that top end package has been proven to make 1k HP at the track!!

ET slips don't lie!

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Gaby is link with Lil Jack

Lil Jack has been the chief ball buster of almost everyone else's combination

you shall reap what you sow

Stan

Yep still waiting....

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by 7T2

sooo,
if my product has the longest warranty in the applicative market, and there are no returns on design isues, this should be an insurance panacea,,, right?

if so, then why, as an agent, do you continue your campaign of slash and burn of new products, before they are tested??

I guarantee you it won't take six years for that Billet head to show you some results!

[455firebird1969]

Nice looking heads! Based on past performance, I doubt lil Jack and Gaby will fall short with this project, and I doubt it will take longer than a few months before time slips are posted.

How will these heads compare weight-wise compared to the E heads? It looks like they might be lighter, or is that just the bling-affect illusion?

[johnta1]

You know you're good when people are trying to tear you down. Everyone hates #1.

CV1 must be #1 then.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Badbird69

Lil,

Nice looking head. Gotta ask though......what pistons are you going to be using so I can buy some of their stock? Hey, turn about is fair play, right?

We've been on the sidelines for the last two year waiting for you guys to catch up. Maybe the new head will help. Just don't let Wreckmaster tune it. Ouch!!

If I weighed 3,000# I would have past you five years ago

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by johnta1

CV1 must be #1 then.

Are u still drinking?

[bankbook]

Originally Posted by lemans411

sure are a lot of tough words for a one off set of heads that arent even assembled yet. lol they look sweet i hope they perform half as good as they look, but isnt this how a lot of cv1 bashing began? unsubstantiated claims? lol whatever this is way different i guess, good luck on the new combo im sure it will be impressive. oh and 1 question ? does gaby actually PORT heads ? or ... does he forward them to the guy that actually ports them? ( middle man) serious question no disrespect intended.

If this un tested head has any chance at all, it NO WAY can it be endorsed or spoken about by the MASSHOLE plumber!!!

Instant credibility loss.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by 455firebird1969

Nice looking heads! Based on past performance, I doubt lil Jack and Gaby will fall short with this project, and I doubt it will take longer than a few months before time slips are posted.

How will these heads compare weight-wise compared to the E heads? It looks like they might be lighter, or is that just the bling-affect illusion?

Visner told me bare they should be around 40#s my assembled E heads are 33# each.

[bankbook]

Much like the guy in the Movie Bronx tale when they are at the track making bets.

[bankbook]

Originally Posted by cfmcnc

1320FT=What seperates the Internet Experts from the real players,Yup.Bill C.

GAME OVER!!!!

[bankbook]

DAMN!

So the winter is officially begun!

[bankbook]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

should be you with your 106 mm turbo.

Not sure about King, but will definitely be an interesting season for sure!!


...you sure its a 106???

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Gaby is link with Lil Jack

Lil Jack has been the chief ball buster of almost everyone else's combination

you shall reap what you sow

Stan

they ain't going to get to jack... he will show slips early next year.. it wont take long
to see him laying down numbers.

all these internet racers on here talking **** stfu unless your Racing!!