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Hesster1977, I just read through all your latest stuff, and I am impressed. I have gained much confirmation about my 1967 Pontiac 428 ci motor. I would like to squeeze out some more Hp by using thinner gaskets, but I am afraid that the rec-90 fuel I must use now will not work well with increasing the C.R. I am on that edge were Heat and Fuel percolation effects the under-hood temps. Since the AC increases the Temps some 30 degrees and the unleaded fuel with 10 percent Alcohol boils at near 176 degrees Approx. and the Rec-90 boils at 186 degrees and has no Alcohol in it.

By having no Alcohol in my Fuel, I stay out of Vapor lock. With my Real air induction, I manage to keep from vapor locking the fuel line even more. I also installed an electric fuel pump with a bypass filter to recirculate the fuel back to the gas tank. Anyway, keep the info. coming people are going to thank you for years for your great contribution. What good are all those Articles doing lying in your closet anyway? Mike out for now.

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" would like to squeeze out some more Hp by using thinner gaskets"

For more HP, going to 1.65 rockers, would be easier than pulling heads off. I don't think a thinner gasket would do squat anyway, nothing you would notice.
Your Cam - you said it was a 041 Pontiac grind, which is the R/A IV I believe. Pretty healthy cam as is, note that the difference in the HC03 cam is simply more lift. Assuming you have the stock #670 heads, then you have a 72cc chamber - plenty of room to increase cam lift, and rockers are easier than changing the cam and valve springs.

" I am on that edge were Heat and Fuel percolation effects the under-hood temps"
Yeah, that is not fun on hot summer days - been there where the engine bay is so hot it is tough to start the car after driving it. Kinda embarrassing at car shows when that happens. The return fuel system is definitely a step in the right direction, I used 1/2" feed and 5/8" aluminum return lines, and heat sleeve wrapped them. Maybe dropping in Rhodes Lifters will help bleed off some of the lift issues at lower rpm's and your engine may run cooler- that is where the engine is at most of the time. If they are noisy, well you could always put the old lifters back in.
Maybe not stock looking, but I finally went to a thin profile powerful electric pusher cooling fan to keep my beast cool - it is not really that noticeable unless you look for it.. I kept my flex fan also.
Geez - starting to sound like Nunzi here.....

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From the "Hesster Archives", HO Articles on the 389 and 400 ci engines
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From the "Hesster Archives", HO Articles on the 421 and 428 ci engines
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I am reading these as you post them and I have to say, you were correct, they are fun reading, sit at home because of Coved...Mike Out.

P.S. My 428 ci is in your list, used in the large Pontiacs, it is Offen left out in Forums and such. I am glad to see H-O had included it in their literature.


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I am trying to send the "H-O" 53- and 54-page Documents via Adobe Cloud, let's see if it works.
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54 pages:
https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/file/...&size=44769270



Mike here, I opened a free account with Adobe Cloud and never used it. So, I was going through some of my literature from over the years and I found the sign-up Info. for Adobe Cloud. So, now I won't have to use Auto-Cad to break down these files as I once was going to do. Now the "H-O" documents are out there in Cyber space for all to view.

I have more documents coming soon. However, Some info. will be repetitious but in URL Form and hopefully more complete. If any of the documents are "not" complete the reader is hereby notified to look through this entire post, including the "Text files" that have been added/inserted from Forums like "PY" and others...and you will get the entire view of the writers and conversationalist.


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On the 1st Adobe attachment, it say's "not authorized to view the file". On the 2nd, I get a blank screen. But I am not sure if I need to convert it to something else or what?

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[QUOTE=TRADERMIKE 2012;6316901]I am trying to send the "H-O" 53- and 54-page Documents via Adobe Cloud, let's see if it works.
53 pages:
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54 pages:
https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/file/...&size=44769270



Mike here, I opened a free account with Adobe Cloud and never used it. So, I was going through some of my literature from over the years and I found the sign-up Info. for Adobe Cloud. So, now I won't have to use Auto-Cad to break down these files as I once was going to do. Now the "H-O" documents are out there in Cyber space for all to view.

I have more documents coming soon. However, Some info. will be repetitious but in URL Form and hopefully more complete. If any of the documents are "not" complete the reader is hereby notified to look through this entire post, including the "Text files" that have been added/inserted from Forums like "PY" and others...and you will get the entire view of the writers and conversationalist.

/acrobat.adobe.com/link/review/?locale=en-US&x-product=CCHome&x-product-location=Apps&guid=af6ad517-8c77-44b2-99a3-2544a645e8ef&context_guid=2b7b0e58-d5a2-4e0f-b81d-d88e9136457d&promoid=QGMZPG6T&mv=other&uri=urn%3Aa aid%3Ascds%3AUS%3AM3yYDd4xTTK2lf-U9WfUrg

Go to the Internet and download a free copy of the latest version Adobe Acrobat reader, this is the program I used to make these files into PDF type files. These files are now on the Adobe Cloud, it is free storage in Cyber Space but it is a limited amount of space you receive, check it out for yourself. Above is the link I copied from my web Browser and you can try this to get Adobe, but I would go online and get a fresh copy directly anyway.

P.S. By the way I tested the 53+54-page link off the PY Forum and they work perfectly for me so do as I say and let me know if there are any other problems reading them. Mike out.


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Mike Said: "Here is another H-O file I came across": https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/file/...f&size=5900437

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Mike said: I ran across this today as I was inputting information to the PY forum, check this out!

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So, I read that Creig liked old cars too:

The soft tops came on many Vehicles including Pontiac, check this out:

http://www.studebakerskytop.com/other.html



Found this on line just now, Thanks to john Wallace it is on the Internet for me to find:

http://www.wallaceracing.com/TFReviveWhat.html


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Mike said: I ran across this today as I was inputting information to the PY forum, check this out!



So, I read that Creig liked old cars too:

The soft tops came on many Vehicles including Pontiac, check this out:

http://www.studebakerskytop.com/other.html



Found this on line just now, Thanks to john Wallace it is on the Internet for me to find:

http://www.wallaceracing.com/TFReviveWhat.html[/QUOTE]





This is the html that did not work, so, I copied it off the Forum I found it on. It is about Creig Passing:


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The HC-03 is significantly larger than the 041 by 14 deg. intake and 12 deg exhaust @ .050" lift

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[QUOTE=KEN CROCIE;6317369]

The "HC-03" Cam is significantly larger than the "041" Cam by 14 deg. intake and 12 deg exhaust @ .050" lift.


Mike Reply: I am not sure why you brought up this topic but let's go with it. Glad to have you in the Post. After all it is about you and your crew.


Ken, can you show us the details of both my Pontiac "041" Cam VS H-O "HC-03" Cam, here so we all can compare them logically please? Please explain how and why "H-O" created the HC-03 Cam? Also, we would like to hear something special that you would like to share with us- lost in forgotten History- that only you would know.

The reason I went with the "041" Cam is because Pontiac Engineers spent a lot of time testing them on the test tracks and new what Cam to use in what weight Vehicle. Keep in mind that my 1979 Pontiac Firebird Trans am with the 1967 Pontiac 428 ci Motor is Street" not" Race and weighs about 4,000 lbs. Someday I would like to use the Roads Variable Lifters but I don't want the noise associated with them.

I would like to know "why the # 886 Cam works so well with the Tri-Power Rochester 2bbl Carbs, as a matter of fact, it is the only Cam designated to the Tri-Power in any list that I have seen? I used to have one in my 1967 428 ci Pontiac Engine with a 1966 Intake Manifold and the Large bore GTO Carbs. Even though This #886 Cam was worn out it still through me back into my seat when the kick- down and secondaries came in. Read some of my other posts on PY and you will get a better perspective on my Vehicle if you choose.


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Here is another H-O document, I don't know if this is already Posted. This, I am using Adobe Acrobat Reader to form PDF files. I am new to PDF making so bare with me please. Mike out:

https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link...9-5f44d8918411

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On the 1st Adobe attachment, its say's "not authorized to view the file". On the 2nd, I got a blank screen. But I am not sure if I need to convert it to something else or what?


Mikes Reply: Hesster1977, I want you to Familiarize yourself with this program as I am doing as we speak. You can Take each of your small Books from H-O and use this Link to create a file in its entirety, no more one page or 5 pages ****. Install this free Version to your computer, just ignore the upgrade for now and start inputting your data much more professionally. One book at a time in order. Then make each Book into a link and then your info. will be over the cloud. If I could figure it out so, can you?

OK, let me explain as if I were you and I had those "H-O" original Articles.
1)Scan each Photo to a file you open and Name It.
2)Download said program and save it to your computer.
3)Group that group of Photos into one file and name it.
4)Open the Adobe Acrobat free version and use the PDF creator tool.
5)Import the file you named into the tool and it does its job.
6)Turn that file into a URL.
7)Post that URL into the forum.
8)Your data will be over the cloud and accessed by all from there.

Below is the link, you must open a free account first using this link I provided. This will bring you to the web page over the Internet so that you are getting the actual program directly. You will have to do trial and error at first but after a while you will get it rite, good luck.

P.S. I would like to mention that I don't know if in the future the Cloud gets wiped off the server. That being said, the way you are inserting your data will never get lost unless the PY forum server gets a virus or server data is lost. In that case I will have to start all over, NOT.

By the way, anyone wanting to view these PDF files should download the Free version of "Adobe Acrobat Reader", I have always had this Program on all my computers regardless of what Programs came with your particular device. This program is like the Stapels you eat like Rice and Potato's, you can't live without it. Plus, it is always free for the basic program which is what I have used forever only.


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The HC-03 is significantly larger than the 041 by 14 deg. intake and 12 deg exhaust @ .050" lift
Hi Ken wondering if you could take a look at the pics I posted earlier in this H-O thread and Give your opinion on whether the car fits with what you remember of Kern's 73 TA. Not sure if you would remember this but I spoke with you on the phone many, many years ago with some questions about the solid roller cam and valve springs.
You also told me about a unique fact about the glass nose on Kern's TA being 1 of 1 and That H-O was going to market them but it ended up being the only one H-O made.
Just hoping to at least have someone who knew/knows Kern's SD powered TA take a look at the pics.
You may be the only person of authority that knew the car and Kern that can give an opinion on it being Kern's car that has any weight. Would document it through DMV except I think a federal law was passed that blocks previous owner history from being divulged in a title search. Or if there is a question you have about the car would be happy to try and answer or take a picture of anything.

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Hey TM - I'm all for that but the link does not work.
So:
"anyone wanting to view these PDF files should download the Free version of "Adobe Acrobat Reader"

I did downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and it allows me to view some of the links, like this one which works.

https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link...9-5f44d8918411

So I see how the HO article was converted into a "URL" which basically allows you to read the whole Volume 4, Number 4 as one document. Yep - easier than posting 5 pages at a crack.

However, the very long links you posted do not work, at least for me, like this one:
"Below is the link, you must open a free account first using this link I provided. This will bring you to the web page over the Internet so that you are getting the actual program directly. You will have to do trial and error at first but after a while you will get it rite, good luck"
./acrobat.adobe.com/link/review/?locale=en-US&x-product=CCHome&x-product-location=Apps&guid=af6ad517-8c77-44b2-99a3-2544a645e8ef&context_guid=2b7b0e58-d5a2-4e0f-b81d-d88e9136457d&promoid=QGMZPG6T&mv=other&uri=urn%3Aa aid%3Ascds%3AUS%3AM3yYDd4xTTK2lf-U9WfUrg
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Maybe PM me with more specifics, so I can go forward with URL based posts, and not tie up our readers with this technical stuff?

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"Ken, can you show us the details of both my Pontiac "041" Cam VS H-O "HC-03" Cam, here so we all can compare them logically please? Please explain how and why "H-O" created the HC-03 Cam? Also, we would like to hear something special that you would like to share with us- lost in forgotten History- that only you would know."


Yes please! As I have posted earlier, I run the HO HC03 stick, and was also steered into using VS21 Mechanical springs which are probably stiffer than the VS12 or VS13 springs, and allow for higher lifts? And 1.65 Rollers. WAY back then when I purchased it, I just went with what HO recommended, and wanted a serious thumper w/o kissing my forged flat top's. Yeah - it is all of that.

See the 2 attachments that allows for cam spec comparison, but the Performance Guide page of HO Cams does not include the detail that Ken stated.
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In post 122, it is written that compared to the RA 4 cam, the HC-03 has "simply more lift". I just wanted to get it right. In fact , the HC-02 cam has more duration at .050" lift than the RA4.About 2 deg.. The HC-02 will outperform the RA4 at all rpm.

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