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Old 12-11-2016, 06:23 PM
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Hi everyone. Not sure this belongs here, so the moderators can feel free to move it. I've been watching a particular '71 GTO for a short time. It had been on ebay recently but the reserve was never met. The last bid was $28,000.00. I see it listed again on ebay. I put a bid in but I'm sure there is a long ways to go. The car is listed as belonging to Smokey Mountain Traders. It is brownish in color with a black vinyl top. A young lady is standing in front of it. Not sure she is part of the package, but that would be ok with me LOL. No listing number and I don't know how to transfer it here. It looks quite nice in pics but don't they all. If someone would take a moment and take a peek, I'd be very grateful. I could use your honest opinion. I should also add that I've seen this same car for a buy it now at another site for $37,000.00. Nice car but I have no interest in paying that amount. Thank you very much, Carmine.

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This the one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Pontiac...m=142204703739

Seems like a nice car, but since it's just a basic 400/auto '71 GTO, I don't see how it could be worth more than $27k?

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Old 12-11-2016, 07:12 PM
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If interested and like the car. Call them and ask them if you can offer them a price subject to inspection.

The car has been restored back to original very nicely fitted body lines. Easy to change things, but nice to see some OEM correctness. Open face alternator and a nice original interior are bonuses.

only thing is the body vinyl stripes (D98) are a nice add in lieu of body molding(B84) imho...

Car is a nice original GTO for sure. They are sweet cars for sure.

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Old 12-11-2016, 08:03 PM
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Is a pretty nice looking car, paint look's like Rosewood and you don't see many in that color if it's the original color on this car?

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This the one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Pontiac...m=142204703739

Seems like a nice car, but since it's just a basic 400/auto '71 GTO, I don't see how it could be worth more than $27k?
Yes, that is the one. Thanks for posting that link. I sent them an email asking about the PHS documentation. The car looks quite nice. Everything appears to be done. I don't think those mufflers are stock. Someone mentioned stripping on the car which I like. But, is that stock/factory stuff?? As I mentioned, the high bid that didn't reach the reserve, was $28,000.00. I'm not sure I would have even gone that high. It has a few days left on ebay. I'm going to watch it and as it gets closer, I may very well call them. By then, I'm sure I'll have some questions. Thank you everyone for looking, Carmine.

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Old 12-11-2016, 09:54 PM
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Smokey Mountain Traders are located in Maryville, Tenn. Just wondering if any members are in that area?? Thanks, Carmine.

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Old 12-11-2016, 07:09 PM
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Smoky Mountain Traders, I don't know anything about them other than they take good photos and videos of their cars but they are pricey. And yes, I do agree the model is worth a look too!

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I like the fit on the nose - those are not fun. But either vinyl top or stripes, not both. $0.02

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Old 12-11-2016, 11:29 PM
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Thats near Knoxville ,Tn. area. I stopped in there about 4 years ago and looked their inventory over. They do have lots of cars there for sale. This car looks better in pics than any other GTO's they had there at that time. They had a few clone Judges at the time that were kinda sloppy restorations.
Be sure to view the PHS before you make any decisions.

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Some of the guy's on one of the Camaro sites have had bad experiences with them.

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Old 12-12-2016, 07:16 AM
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Some of the guy's on one of the Camaro sites have had bad experiences with them.
Good to know. Thanks. I'm not sure how far this will really go. As I previously mentioned, they refused on an ebay posting-didn't reach reserve-$28,000.00 and on another site it was buy it now at $37,000.00. I don't have an interest in either price, Carmine.

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If you're not interested in paying 28k for a restored 71 matching GTO. Good luck with your search.

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Old 12-12-2016, 01:46 PM
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Thats near Knoxville ,Tn. area. I stopped in there about 4 years ago and looked their inventory over. They do have lots of cars there for sale. This car looks better in pics than any other GTO's they had there at that time. They had a few clone Judges at the time that were kinda sloppy restorations.
Be sure to view the PHS before you make any decisions.
I have similar thoughts about their operation.

Several years back, my wife and I took a long weekend in the Appalachian mountains, spending one day at Pontiacs at Pigeon Forge. One of the locals told me about Smoky Mountain Traders, so we swung by there on Monday to see what they had.

My impression was that they were expensive, and the quality of the cars was all over the place. I could see things that were incorrect with the Pontiacs I looked at, but I would consider them as a cosmetic or amateur restoration. I don't think Smoky Mountain does any of the restoration work themselves, so it's hard to say what the quality of workmanship for any individual car is like. They probably buy what they can find, and flip them. They did have a bunch of cars on site.

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54000 miles and needed to be fully restored. That is something I would question. And the price is way too high.

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54000 miles and needed to be fully restored. That is something I would question. And the price is way too high.
What gives you the indication that it needs to be fully restored ?

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Carmine if I may ask what do you feel it is worth? No GTO expert but flipping thru the pics it looks very nice to me

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Old 12-12-2016, 01:37 PM
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Looks awful with the stripes. I wonder what the default stripe color was with Rosewood?

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That car is pretty much an identical twin to my GT-37. Rosewood, black Cordova top & D98 stripes. My car was painted yellow by a previous owner years before I got it and I don't think I've ever seen another Rosewood A-body, especially with black top and the stripes. I've tried to imagine my car in it's original colors and assumed it would've had red/white eyebrows. Looks weird to see red/black ones.


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Looks awful with the stripes. I wonder what the default stripe color was with Rosewood?

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I would never purchase a used car from a dealer. Most dealers (also known as stealers) cannot be trusted.

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Old 12-16-2016, 07:11 PM
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Sweet looking car, me, I like the stripes....

The 71 dealer ordering guide lists the Black/Red stripes for a Rosewood car when ordering D98 stripes. Seems to be the contention that 71 non-Judges always would get the two color stripes but the catalog shows the three color Judge stripes (UPC 614) available for T-37 thru GTO so go figure.

Not sure what PHS would do for you here. The VIN shows it's a GTO, you have the paint codes which match, and they have what looks like a legit dealer shipping doc listing the factory options. Only significant change is the added Honeycombs.

Numbers matching, restored 71 GTO not needing a paint job and clean like this one......hard to find and that's why they are at that price.

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