Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-19-2013, 11:33 PM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default GM Overseas Distributors Corp

This has been bugging me for awhile. My 70 T/A was delivered to GM Overseas Distributors Corp. in New York, New York. What exactly does that mean? Did a service man order it overseas and pick it up in New York? Did it go overseas? Curiosity is killing me! Thanks guys!

  #2  
Old 11-20-2013, 07:05 AM
bluebird68 bluebird68 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cairns FNQ Aust
Posts: 14
Default

My 69 Firebird was billed to G.M. Overseas Operations. 1775 Broadway. New York. N.Y. for export to Australia where it was converted to RHD.

  #3  
Old 11-20-2013, 09:04 AM
RicksGTO's Avatar
RicksGTO RicksGTO is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Colleyville, Texas
Posts: 3,486
Default

Does your PHS have any unusual charges for additional prep or delete seat belts, gauge conversion, etc?

__________________
'72 Formula 455HO TH400, Revere Silver, black deluxe
'74 Trans Am SD 4 speed, Admiralty Blue, blue deluxe
  #4  
Old 11-20-2013, 10:16 AM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default

Very cool! Were there any specific codes to show it actually departed the US?

  #5  
Old 11-20-2013, 10:49 AM
robz's Avatar
robz robz is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Montreal, Quebec, CANADA
Posts: 2,509
Default

Correct (per Rick above)...Here is a PHS for a RAIV GTO that was exported ...notice Seat Belt Delete credit, Prep charges, Speedo Gear adapter/Conv of speedo to KM/H....
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	69GTO_PHS_RAIV_EXPORT.jpg
Views:	99
Size:	80.6 KB
ID:	343793  

__________________
1969 GTO 400-4speed, H/T
1969 GTO 400-RAIII-4speed, Convertible
1969 Grand Prix SJ
  #6  
Old 11-20-2013, 07:55 PM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default

My T/A build sheet is barely readable(as per bad microfiche), but there is definitely none of the overseas codes. Is that address one where someone from overseas could pick up their new car and drive home?

  #7  
Old 11-20-2013, 08:30 PM
RicksGTO's Avatar
RicksGTO RicksGTO is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Colleyville, Texas
Posts: 3,486
Default

On the cars ordered that weren't actually leaving the US, they could request that they be delivered to the dealership of their choice and the car was just billed thru the GM Overseas department for accounting purposes. The dealership received a set fee from GM for the dealer prep and handling the delivery.
Here is an interesting article on the GM Overseas procedures during the Vietnam war timeframe:
http://www.corvairkid.com/GMODMSTS.htm
.

__________________
'72 Formula 455HO TH400, Revere Silver, black deluxe
'74 Trans Am SD 4 speed, Admiralty Blue, blue deluxe
The Following User Says Thank You to RicksGTO For This Useful Post:
  #8  
Old 11-20-2013, 09:38 PM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default

A very cool read!

  #9  
Old 11-21-2013, 01:25 AM
bluebird68 bluebird68 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cairns FNQ Aust
Posts: 14
Default

PHS for the Firebird shows $15.00 for export prep.

  #10  
Old 11-21-2013, 11:30 AM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default

I've got no export codes on mine. The mystery remains on why it went there.

  #11  
Old 11-21-2013, 07:16 PM
Baron Von Zeppelin Baron Von Zeppelin is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,484
Default

GM and/or PMD had special programs for military personnel back then.
Deep discounts.

All those orders were processed through GM Overseas Dist Corp.
They handled all the order processing from abroad.
Few - if any at all - ever saw NY, NY.

RicksGTO post is probably in line with your car.

Here is a 69 Bird that was ordered by a military man.
He still owns it. (original owner)
Young man who is a member here found the car sitting.
Got PHS - and tracked ownership - hoping to buy it.

He has a thread about the whole saga in 67-69 section.
He eventually spoke with owner and got details.
Not for sale though.

This one never left USA , believe it actually delivered to a Florida dealership.
It does have a $5.xx export prep - for some reason.

Export cars were discounted too.
Seems like years ago we determined the military discount was deeper than the exports. In one of the GTO sections.
foggy about it now

Compare your pricing to an average invoice
Post your invoice if possible

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	69 bird sprint3.jpg
Views:	187
Size:	222.3 KB
ID:	343967  

  #12  
Old 11-24-2013, 11:14 PM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default

This the invoice that I have for my 70. No codes that I can see for export. Musta had it shipped to a dealer. Is there any way to find where this car went new?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20131124_205600.jpg
Views:	71
Size:	100.9 KB
ID:	344387   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20131124_205716.jpg
Views:	68
Size:	62.1 KB
ID:	344388  

  #13  
Old 11-25-2013, 09:04 AM
johnta1's Avatar
johnta1 johnta1 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: now sunny Florida!
Posts: 21,318
Default

Is there anything else on the sheet at the bottom?

Is this from PHS?

A PHS sheet normally has the 'Shipped to' and billed to codes on them.
PHS may have more than one sheet for them?

Interesting discussion.


__________________
John Wallace - johnta1
Pontiac Power RULES !!!
www.wallaceracing.com

Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova
Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats

KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever!


"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates
  #14  
Old 11-25-2013, 09:20 AM
johnta1's Avatar
johnta1 johnta1 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: now sunny Florida!
Posts: 21,318
Default

Here's a pic of some of the info:



Does it have the 'Invoice Number' on your sheet also?

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	phs-info.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	34.1 KB
ID:	344410  

__________________
John Wallace - johnta1
Pontiac Power RULES !!!
www.wallaceracing.com

Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova
Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats

KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever!


"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates
  #15  
Old 11-25-2013, 11:51 AM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default

John, I will have to look when I get home. it's a PHS, but from 1991. I ordered a new one when I got the car 2 years ago as well. Interesting stuff for sure!

  #16  
Old 11-25-2013, 10:37 PM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default

John, the only numbers on the bottom of the invoice are: TRK 2G44.
Also maybe a 1 GN 6E74 in the dealer code area. Looks like I also have an invoice code. Pretty blurry, but looks like: PLK 61326? My invoice number was in the upper right corner.

  #17  
Old 11-26-2013, 09:10 AM
johnta1's Avatar
johnta1 johnta1 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: now sunny Florida!
Posts: 21,318
Default

Thanks!

The TRK 2G44 is probably the trucking order invoice number.
So it was sent by truck instead of train probably.

The PLK 61326 is the invoice number for this car.

The P is for Pontiac, the 'L' is for Van Nuys, and the 'K' is probably for ???? shipping overseas?

Not sure if we have that letter yet.

Also not sure what the 1 GN 6E74 means. Might be useful.

BVZ may be able to help on that.


__________________
John Wallace - johnta1
Pontiac Power RULES !!!
www.wallaceracing.com

Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova
Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats

KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever!


"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates
  #18  
Old 11-26-2013, 10:51 AM
CAM400455 CAM400455 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 182
Default

Pretty cool all this code stuff! Thanks for looking, John!

  #19  
Old 11-26-2013, 03:34 PM
johnta1's Avatar
johnta1 johnta1 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: now sunny Florida!
Posts: 21,318
Default

Here's a PHS posted in another thread:



It shows 2 places the car went to.
It 1st went to zone 21 - dealer zone # 991.
Then it went to zone 21 - dealer # 187 where it was probably bought from.
The invoice numbers have a 'ZRA' prefix which means it was for zone production/storage until some dealer needed one like it.
The 'R' is for the plant Arlington in this case.
The 'A' is for how it was paid to Pontiac.
Yours is 'K' so it must stand for possibly being paid from oversees supplier/dealer?


__________________
John Wallace - johnta1
Pontiac Power RULES !!!
www.wallaceracing.com

Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova
Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats

KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever!


"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates
  #20  
Old 11-26-2013, 03:39 PM
johnta1's Avatar
johnta1 johnta1 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: now sunny Florida!
Posts: 21,318
Default

You wouldn't have the build sheet from the car would you?
(very rare to find though)

I think the '1 GN 6E74' may be the order number for the car.
Possibly would have been on the build sheet.


__________________
John Wallace - johnta1
Pontiac Power RULES !!!
www.wallaceracing.com

Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova
Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats

KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever!


"Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts."

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:30 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017