[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... of course Jack, you mean a really expensive billet tunnel ram that only makes 1080hp right ?? ...

... I'll call Fulton and have him order one right away, that way it's a fair race ...

LMMFAO

What happens on the track is what really matters.

[Chris Uratchko]

Those are nice carbs though. Book said the ones he built beat his best effort Aussy Pro Stock dominators in power and ET... Pretty cool.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... that's great advice Brian, why haven't you given the same advice to Jack, considering all of his bloviating ?? ...

... feeling a little bias are we ?? ...

The statement was meant for all involved which includes lil jack.

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by Badbird69

Well, the dust seems to have settled a bit, the ever predictable sophomoric attempts at humor have been thrown, and the egos of the self-appointed experts have once again flared up like hemorrhoids. The pompous, arrogant, condescending BS that flows over here, has a pronounced stifling effect on new ideas, new products and new members.

Just because some of you have had a little success, it apparently gives you license to trash others'
efforts and refer to them as "clueless". Get over yourselves!! There is always more to learn.

This motor is not some one-off, exotic dyno queen, designed to elevate some narcissistic artist on a pedestal. It was instead designed to lay the groundwork for future CV-1 customer builds. There are CAD files for everything that has been done to these heads and intake manifold, and therefore can be
duplicated at the push of a button. The idea here is to sell cylinder heads and manifolds - not to just pad someone's resume'.

I know some of you don't care for Mr. Bill. I think one of the reasons is that he didn't just roll over and
wet on himself when he and Roland Racing were under fire. While it is easy to hurl jeers and insults, the one defending himself usually comes off as the jerk. But when you are attacking a man's livelihood, what kind of response would you expect?

In spite of the circumstances, he most often responded in an articulate and knowledgeable manner. Some of you have ridiculed his multiple port designs for this head. Well, he is a head porter. That is what he does. He was not so much bragging on himself, but was excitedly trying to share the capabilities of this head. Not everyone shares that enthusiasm. I get that. But different engine combos require different ports. Duh!

As you know, Mr. Bill does all the port development at Sonny's. That didn't happen by accident. Sonny did not hire Bill to sand roll existing ports. He hired him to bring their program to the next level, and that is what is happening. Most of what he is working on - he can't even talk about. So stop kidding yourselves about his knowledge and abilities.

Bill not only did the port work on my heads and intake, but did the spec out on the cam, valves, springs, pistons, carbs and headers. There were a lot of CV-1 "firsts" in this build and therefore a lot of "unknowns". But if you have done your homework, the dyno should not yield any big surprises. Judging from the results, I'd say Mr. Bill hit it out of the park on his first try. Let's see ..... 4150 carbs, cast intake manifold, junk CV-1 heads, 13:1 compression and making nearly 1100 HP first time up?
Yep, that's a Home Run. Is there room for improvement? Of course there is - And now we have a proven launching pad.

Don't believe our dyno results? You don't have to. The car will back them up - always has, always will.

This was not a gamble for me. I had confirmed for myself the potential of the CV-1 heads in a previous test. This was just the next logical step up. The results are not only a validation of Jim Sammons' design, but a vindication as well. Yes the heads do work. Yes, they respond to port work in the right hands. Yes, the valve train is stable. And yes, the bang for the buck is simply untouchable by any other head and intake combination currently available.

We'll see you at the track,

Dick Fulton


P.S. It has been brought to my attention that Gach, the rumor whore, has leveled the accusation that I was given everything in this build. Nothing could be further from the truth. My wife will attest that my checkbook and credit cards are still smoldering. (She has been more than supportive, and will say all money spent on this venture has been well worth it). This shows once again, that when Gach can't handle the truth, he merely makes chit up. It is sad to witness the mindless drivel of a bitter, disillusioned old man who has failed at everything in life. We can only hope for a merciful demise, sooner than later.

Well said and done. I know this combo will help raise the bar for the Pontiac faithful......and no one pays any attention to the nitwit on the soap opera channel.

[johnta1]

Well said and done. I know this combo will help raise the bar for the Pontiac faithful......and no one pays any attention to the nitwit on the soap opera channel.

X2!

Congrats again, on the build.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

What happens on the track is what really matters.

... wow, you don't say, thanks Jack we had no idea all this stuff was to actually put it on the track, man thanks buddy ...

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Chris Uratchko

Those are nice carbs though. Book said the ones he built beat his best effort Aussy Pro Stock dominators in power and ET... Pretty cool.

... they are badass little pieces, but they still have all 4150 spacing and centerlines so technically they are 4150 carbs ...

[ho428]

When it comes to 1000+ hp engines I'll admit I don't know Jack, I'll also admit I don't know Dick... Puns intended.

I do have to wonder though what Dick thinks about his engine being dragged through the sewer that all CV threads end up in.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by ho428

When it comes to 1000+ hp engines I'll admit I don't know Jack, I'll also admit I don't know Dick... Puns intended.

I do have to wonder though what Dick thinks about his engine being dragged through the sewer that all CV threads end up in.

It looks more like cv cheer squad being drug througb mud.

I think anyone that understands what an engine on this level takes to complete is inmpressed. EVEN JACK. The posts like "jack calling gaby" "its only 13/1 and jack was 14/1 so ours is way better" insert carbs etc.

For real John Marcella posted the first congratulations thread. And slam Jack in the opening post.

Like i said entertaining though.

[Chris Uratchko]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... they are badass little pieces, but they still have all 4150 spacing and centerlines so technically they are 4150 carbs ...

Works for me!!

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Ahhh someone saw what I saw. Trying to pawn off those carbs off as "lowly" 4150 carbs.

Bruce, you need to spend more time at the track then at a keyboard. You might end up learning something that's useful.

My dominators are 1050 cfm dominators.

Jack I do need to get to track more often...I'm workin' to do just that... has been a a bit of a challenge the past 10 years...life challenges keep interfering.

Seems my previous post was not taken for the sarcasm it was intended to be...oops forgot the emoticon

I do know Bill's "4150's" arent run of the mill...he builds some awesome carbs!

That said I have seen 1st hand, more ordinary 4150('s) carbs(certainly not stock but not anything like Bills carbs) run as well and sometimes better than 4500's (same engine, same vehicle, day, and track!).

My point is you dont need Domi's to be a "racer" and if one puts a bit of time/effort in "regular" 4150's you can get very good results...sometimes equal or better than the "race car" domi's ...imagine that!

[ho428]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Like i said entertaining though.

Yep, it had been too quiet lately.

[JSPONT]

WHEN IS THE RACE?? Not the internet one the REAL ONE AT A TRACK???

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by JSPONT

WHEN IS THE RACE?? Not the internet one the REAL ONE AT A TRACK???

Norwalk, 1/8th mile heads up, Pro Tree. First to the finish line wins.

That's all the rules.

Beech Bend is a slight possibility if Fulton goes.

[Bob Crueger]

Maybe his car can go the whole quarter.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Norwalk, 1/8th mile heads up, Pro Tree. First to the finish line wins.

That's all the rules.

Beech Bend is a slight possibility if Fulton goes.

... 1/8th mile !!!!! ... are you kidding me ?? ... i mean are you frickin' kidding me !!! ...

... no way, 1/4 mile only !!! ... sounds like somebody is worried about heat related issues huh ?? ...

[Aaron Quinton]

1/4 is a real drag race.

[LiL Jack]

All heads up racing around here and the class I run is 1/8th mile.

Heat is a non issue.

[Scott Roberts]

1/4 mile is a drag race...this race will take place at Norwalk, not "around here". I think this is a put up or shut up kinda moment. Nice job to all involved..Bill is a very smart and well accomplished builder that proved the cv1 can make power, even in nitrous "trim". Dont know Mr. Fulton personally but have never seen anything to lead me to believe he is anything less then a class act. Glad he went the route he did with the builder and heads. My money is on Mr. Fulton and his band of CV1 misfits

[mjm421]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Norwalk, 1/8th mile heads up, Pro Tree. First to the finish line wins.

That's all the rules.

Beech Bend is a slight possibility if Fulton goes.

Gay as hell!!!! Step up man.