[quick67bird]

I am toying with selling all my Pontiac parts and converting my Firebird over to a corporate LS type motor. It would be easier to get turbo type parts for the car than buying parts for a Pontiac engine. The down side is the car would be generic like a lot of other cars.

I have kind of been waiting for Don's RA V heads to come into production to see what size combustion chambers will be offered.

Just a consideration right now. I have ran Pontiacs since me and my brother started street racing back in the late 80s early 90s. I will research more and decide later as it is hard for me to change do to loving and being loyal to Pontiacs for so long.

[john marcella]

There are Pontiac diehards gathering there pitch forks and torches as we speak , so look out. Ask me how I know.

[quick67bird]

Originally Posted by john marcella

There are Pontiac diehards gathering there pitch forks and torches as we speak , so look out. Ask me how I know.

I know, but I have some thick skin and go my own way when I make up my mind to do something. Hell if I didn't I would not have ran a Pontiac for so long lol. All the brand X guys that I ran with think I am out of my mind.

[mjm421]

That LS motor would look right at home in a Camaro. Sell the whole ball of wax and go the Bow tie route.

[quick67bird]

Originally Posted by mjm421

That LS motor would look right at home in a Camaro. Sell the whole ball of wax and go the Bow tie route.

I have had my Firebird since I was 18. Selling it won't happen. I will be buried in that thing.

I wish I had a friend with your skill at painting out here though as the old girl has never been painted nice. I was always worried more about HP than looks. Ugly was stealthy while street racing though.

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by mjm421

That LS motor would look right at home in a Camaro. Sell the whole ball of wax and go the Bow tie route.

What are you talking about , you got a Ford motor in your car, just look at them valve covers. LOL

[Rob B]

Sometime you do what you have to do or what make economical sense. we have a 67 firebird project that I'll start on next year and I seriously thought about an LS deal because this will be a fun street/driver car but the wife squashed that idea.

[mjm421]

Originally Posted by quick67bird

I have had my Firebird since I was 18. Selling it won't happen. I will be buried in that thing.

I wish I had a friend with your skill at painting out here though as the old girl has never been painted nice. I was always worried more about HP than looks. Ugly was stealthy while street racing though.

I have a 65 I'm the same way with. Hang tough with the poncho power. Unless you are going heads up racing at Milan Dragway. Marcella will come to his senses one day. After all like us, he's had his car since he was a young punk too. He knows it's fast , but just not as cool. Hang tough brother!!

[quick67bird]

Originally Posted by Rob B

Sometime you do what you have to do or what make economical sense. we have a 67 firebird project that I'll start on next year and I seriously thought about an LS deal because this will be a fun street/driver car but the wife squashed that idea.

I have a 64 Lemans too, but that is just going to be a fun street cruiser. I am just thinking right now, but I am seriously liking the LS engines the more I learn about them.

[quick67bird]

Originally Posted by mjm421

I have a 65 I'm the same way with. Hang tough with the poncho power. Unless you are going heads up racing at Milan Dragway. Marcella will come to his senses one day. After all like us, he's had his car since he was a young punk too. He knows it's fast , but just not as cool. Hang tough brother!!

I am waiting for the RA V offerings and will probably use them if all the stars align.

People have been doing a lot of amazing **** with those LS engines though.

[mike leech]

If you want to go fast with a turbo....all you need are eheads and the right guys to go fast helping poncho style.

People have been doing a lot of amazing **** with those pontiac engines though.

[Aaron Quinton]

Don't do it man. I think we're all here because we grew up building and improving Pontiac engines to compete with what everyone else was running. The LSx engine is a good engine and a good design. But it's not what got your heart into going fast and wanting to improve the HP level of the Pontiac engine. Don't throw in the towel, there are folks willing to help if you need it to make a Pontiac go. Look at The Crow as an example of a killer turbo car.

Marcella is a great and talented guy. I think I understand why he switched engines, he's trying to be more competitive in the class he's running. However, I really believe he'll be back to the Pontiac engine in future. It's why we all started doing what we're doing isn't it? PPTTFMF!

[v869tr6]

A Ram Air 5 turbo engine would be awesome.

[David Holmberg]

Yes its easier and cheaper to go LSx, that's why everyone is doing it.

The question is, do you want to be like everyone else?

[bpenrod]

It's your car and your money, I wouldn't give two ****s about what anyone on this board thinks!!!!!

[RAIV-Z]

Originally Posted by v869tr6

A Ram Air 5 turbo engine would be awesome.

Yeah, and a twin turbo RA-V would be wicked awesome, if you use the right vendors. I can’t wait to see DCI RA-Vs running.

[GTO Dan]

Originally Posted by john marcella

There are Pontiac diehards gathering there pitch forks and torches as we speak , so look out. Ask me how I know.

It's called tough love.

[cgeise]

Not sure I get this -- both engines will need chassis specific headers -and intake plumbing to get it all together so what are you wanting to do by going to an LS motor ??? The "build" on the two motors will be similar to hold up under boost, so again, where is the huge advantage?? And I guarantee you - you can make more power with Stock or e-heads than your chassis can hold---- trust me.

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by cgeise

Not sure I get this -- both engines will need chassis specific headers -and intake plumbing to get it all together so what are you wanting to do by going to an LS motor ??? The "build" on the two motors will be similar to hold up under boost, so again, where is the huge advantage?? And I guarantee you - you can make more power with Stock or e-heads than your chassis can hold---- trust me.

True

[Tom Vaught]

A basic Turbo Package with old school Turbos had the ability to run 6.27 at 228 mph.

New School with "State of the Art" T-88 style turbo package has run in the +250 mph range (SANDBAGGING) in a top Turbo guys chassis. So it will not be the turbo package.

Takes cubic money to run that fast. It has been proven that a PONTIAC ENGINE can live for several years with a "Old School" turbo package without durability issues.

So what do you need the LS engine for except that it is cheaper and less time consuming to build it to a MODERATE 7 second package. People were running 7.50s at 3000 pounds in 1998 with old Super Street Chassis designs. That level of chassis design should not cost a arm and leg to build today.

I see no benefit to the LS engine vs the Traditional Pontiac Engine to run 7.50s with today's Pontiac Knowledge. Do you want to go faster? $$$$$$$$

Tom Vaught