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Old 11-09-2009, 01:53 PM
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Does anyone else have any other good results with front windshields beside percy's, I'm just looking for other choices. I have ran Pro glass for about 7 years now and have hated ever since new. It's like looking out a frost window,even when new. Yes I know stay with orignal glass, but this car is tank already and not going back. I'm looking molded one. Thanks, Keith

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Old 11-09-2009, 02:08 PM
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Jerry Bickel has Lexan to fit, but I went to Lowes or Home Depot (don't rember which) and bought a sheet of "No Mar", and made my own.

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Keith.. I'll find out what Rich is gonna use on my 70 and let u know

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Old 11-09-2009, 02:48 PM
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:10 PM
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Hello,
Could I get a little more info on what thickness you used and how it ended up turning out for you?I am wanting to do it to a 85'Grand Prix that has all factory glass in it now.What kind of cost was the whole sheet,and how many windows did you get out of the sheet of "NoMar" plexiglass?Like a 4'x 8' sheet?What did you do just paint a black edges around the outside of it(on the inside of the lexan),and screw it in to the old channel?Thanks for any advise and help in teaching me anything I could do to make this a better turn out.
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Jerry Bickel has Lexan to fit, but I went to Lowes or Home Depot (don't rember which) and bought a sheet of "No Mar", and made my own.

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Old 11-09-2009, 08:42 PM
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3x6 just paint black edges around the outside of it(on the inside of thelexan),and screw it in to the old channel . it was 80.00 bucks brace in the center .
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:46 PM
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Home Depot here! $89 for a 4 x 8 sheet of 1/8" thick polycarbonate. Believe it or not, it can be cut with a cut off wheel unlike plexi-glass which will melt rather than cut and clog up your wheel. I laid my original windshield on top of it, used plastic clamps to hold it steady and traced with a dark pencil. I bought a stick of aluminum 1/2" U channel to make the support brace in the center. A 4 x 8 sheet will usually only make the windshield, I used some of the remaining scraps to make wind deflectors behind my grille to keep wind from inside the engine compartment. I was able to get all of the door glass and quarter windows from a single sheet but some cars will differ. I spent a total of $270 for all the windows in my car...
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:23 AM
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Just make sure it is lexan, NOT plexiglass. Plexiglass will break when hit or too much wind pressure. I have seen a race car blow out the windshield and the air pressures knock the doors off at VMP a few years ago. The car was going 180 mph when that happened.

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Old 11-10-2009, 09:14 AM
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Polycarbonate, MarGuard, RhinoGuard...there's a bunch of different brand names out there, just make sure it's not PlexiGlass and has the "scratch resistant" surface. 1/8" is too thin for windshields, but fine for side or rear glass. 4' x 8' sheet of the next size up (which is about 3/16" thick) was just under $150 for me with enough material to make 3 windshields for the funny car (less for a full size car). When drilling mounting holes, always make them just a hair larger in diameter than the size of the fastener to allow for "movement" when the material goes through hot/cold heat cycles...this will prevent cracking. I'm also not a fan of countersunk fasteners (although they look cool) because of the cracking possibility.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:35 AM
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I made my own. 1/8 Mar Gaurd, single 4x8 sheet did my car. Make sure you scuff the edges good before painting. Regular enamel rattle can worked best for me. I used button head philips, not countersunk, 8/32 stainless screws. ... Eric
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:43 AM
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Brian is correct. 1/8 is on the thin side of safety. And stainless steel button heads are the way to go.

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Old 11-10-2009, 11:03 AM
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Not to bebate the opinion that 1/8" is too thin when 3/16 might be better but try to break a sheet of 1/8 polycarbonate. When I did mine, the instructions printed on the sheet said to score a line with 3 or 4 strokes with a lexan and plexi-glass cuting blade then place the score line on the edge of a bench and bend to break... NOT!!! I made around 10 to 12 strokes with the blade pusing with tons of pressure, bent along the score line till the sheet was wrapped around almost 180* and it still didn't break! You could probably drop kick my 1/8" windsheild and get sprung off across the shop on your arse lol. Go with whatever you're comfortable with here...

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Old 11-10-2009, 11:45 AM
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My opinion on 1/8" Lexan/polycarbonate for a windshield not being sufficient is for two reasons:

A.) Due to it being so thin it requires bracing to keep from buckling in at speed.
B.) It's not strong enough to keep substantial debris out of the interior for the same thin reason.

It's easier to work 1/8" into a form that isn't flat without going to a heat "preformed" windshield...that's the only reason why people use it for a windshield.

Do I base this opinion on personal experience? No...but before I made a windshield myself, I consulted with several other racers with cars running 175 MPH and faster, and they all said the same thing...1/8" is too thin for a windshield.

Working the 3/16" into a curved windshield was a bit of a pain in the ass, but the results are better (and safer) than 1/8". I used #10 polished stainless steel button head fasteners with a recessed hex and nylock nuts, but any comparable size fastener will work well, just make the mounting holes a hair larger and don't run the fasteners down too tight. If you hear the Lexan making a squeaking or cracking sound as you tighten them, your holes are either not large enough or you've tightened them too far (or both), which will leave it prone to cracking.

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Old 11-10-2009, 12:38 PM
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now how do you still retain the factory trim clips? or, i guess that is a given if you are tracing the windshield, huh? an exact match of the windshield will leave room for the clips and the trim

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Old 11-10-2009, 12:45 PM
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I use a product called sikaflex that we use to seal semi trailer and throw a bead around the windshield and place it in there. Does move a bit and help seals for the water leaks around the edges.

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Old 11-10-2009, 01:19 PM
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How about Clear One

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Old 11-10-2009, 01:34 PM
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Thanks Dave, I was trying to find there site. It just don't seem be alot of choices out there. There's no way I will go back to Pro Glass. They told that Warren Johnson use there product, maybe that's why he don't win anymore races. He probly can't see the tree thru there crapy product. I do think I might look into the sheets that all have been talking about. Anything to save a buck.

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Old 11-10-2009, 03:46 PM
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I need some tips on restoring fogged up (sunburnt, sandblasted) window
Its beyond using a simple polish
Is it like plastic headlights? 600grit, 1000grit, polish?

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Old 11-10-2009, 04:28 PM
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I did use headlight polishing kit on this and it was too fine, I went to a regular buffing compound help take it off. It worked real good on all of them but, the front windshield. Then I got mad it because I could see parts of the protective coating and it was right in my vision. When I was running the car and your at the line and shaking and thumping and your looking thru it makes you dizzy. So I did something stupid and tried buffing the inside and it has a coating too, so now feels like I looking out a tunnel. LoL

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Makes you dizzy and It's like looking through a tunnel?
Sounds OK to me, what could go wrong? LOL

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