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Old 12-29-2022, 11:01 AM
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John Snyder has run 7.59 @ 178 NA on the 275 drag radial.... Since then he switched to a nitrous class and is sorting the new combo out.
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It has been a few years since I saw any of them at the track. But John Snyder was running N/A in the same class as Jeff Kinsler was running nitrous. It was an 1/8 mile class. Do you know if Chris U is still building John's engines?

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Old 12-29-2022, 11:21 AM
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It has been a few years since I saw any of them at the track. But John Snyder was running N/A in the same class as Jeff Kinsler was running nitrous. It was an 1/8 mile class. Do you know if Chris U is still building John's engines?

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Hi Stan, I'm not sure about John and KK running the same class back then. I would think nitrous cars would never compete against NA. I think last year they both competed in a 275 nitrous class. I also believe Chris has done some work for JS but doubt he is his only engine guy.

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Old 12-29-2022, 11:26 AM
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Hi Stan, I'm not sure about John and KK running the same class. I would think nitrous cars would never compete against NA. I think last year they both competed in a 275 nitrous class. I also believe Chris has done some work for JS but doubt he is his only engine guy.
They both run Ultra 275, same class.

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Old 12-29-2022, 11:29 AM
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They both run Ultra 275, same class.
With John NA and KK spraying?

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Old 12-29-2022, 11:42 AM
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Paul,
This would have been 4 or 5 years ago. They were both running "Ultra Street" which was 1/8. These are a snippet from the rules from a few years ago. I also believe Ray Cox may have run this class at sometime.

The last time I saw John Snyder's car it was N/A with a beautiful billet manifold by John Marcella.

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They are tiger 1’s that we heavily modified and kind of were the prototype for the tiger 2’s. I jokenly call them cv-juans as a dig at cv-1’s since mine blow them out of the water. There were a few keyboard jockeys 6-7 years ago claiming they would outrun me with that other head. 😂
Ok, that makes sense now...I thought maybe I had blacked out for a season or something...Good luck in 2023 with that beast.

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Snyder runs nitrous.

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Old 12-29-2022, 01:34 PM
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When Langer and Matukas get the chassis consistent with the Liberty, the NA 10.5 racers are going to start yelling to the gods to add weight to his car.
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John Snyder has run 7.59 @ 178 NA on the 275 drag radial.... Since then he switched to a nitrous class and is sorting the new combo out.
When JS ran the above time at the 2018 World Cup 1/4 mile Wild Street Class he was not using nitrous. I believe he had the fastest NA Pontiac on the property that day.

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Originally Posted by John Langer
They are tiger 1’s that we heavily modified and kind of were the prototype for the tiger 2’s. I jokenly call them cv-juans as a dig at cv-1’s since mine blow them out of the water. There were a few keyboard jockeys 6-7 years ago claiming they would outrun me with that other head. ��

Always nice to get the right head identified for the right vehicle.
I had forgotten about your cv-juans "as a dig at cv-1’s since mine blow them out of the water. There were a few keyboard jockeys 6-7 years ago claiming they would outrun me with that other head".

1) Glad you are going quicker each time you upgrade your combination.

2) So would it be possible to post up the 2022 numbers for the ECM based on the 2022
people still racing in the east????

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East Coast is where you will find most of the fastest Pontiacs. Texas has the baddest iron head street Pontiacs.

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East Coast is where you will find most of the fastest Pontiacs. Texas has the baddest iron head street Pontiacs.
Yea, but the engines come from the Midwest!

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Yea, but the engines come from the Midwest!
That's because they have eight months a year of crap weather to build them..... Lol

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I hear the weather in Texas is better

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I agree with that. It's for sure warmer and a lot more sun. It can get a little warm in the shop. I've had folks from Minnesota tell me they can't believe how cold winter is in Chicago.
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So currently there are 2 fast na cars making passes, Langer and Dwight, is that it?

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You could be #3 if you threw the money at it that Langer has.

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So currently there are 2 fast na cars making passes, Langer and Dwight, is that it?
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Define fast?
Moving quickly, high rate of speed.

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Define fast?
Close to or above 2 G's acceleration rate.

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