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Old 06-21-2021, 04:48 AM
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recently i sold some parts on ebay, so like always you pay a listing and final value fee. So i sold the item for 450.00 and shipping was 200.00 (cylinder heads). ebay sent me a final value fee of 81.00... so i did the math. they charged me the 12.5 percent on the auction price, shipping and the sales tax...i sent them a message asking if it was right and they said yes. I explained to them that the tax is paid to the state and shipping charges to the shipper(fed ex). why would they charge for that? they said its their policy. i guess when listing items you must pad your price an extra 12.5% on the shipping and price of the item. otherwise you will lose money. I still think they should have only charged me on the 450 not 710.00, the auction price for the goods. not for the shipping service and state tax...EBAY is ripping people off.....

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Old 06-21-2021, 07:00 AM
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I’ve list money every time I’ve sold something on eBay

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Old 06-21-2021, 07:15 AM
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It's been that way for a while. In the past, ebay only charged a fee on the selling price, excluding shipping, but sellers found a loophole. Using your example, listing heads with a buy it now price of $1.00 plus $649 shipping, ebay only collected a percentage of the one dollar.

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Old 06-21-2021, 07:15 AM
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Well that provides insight, thanks.

Only ebay SELLING i do is beer cans and vacuum tubes. Shipping low enough on those puppies.

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Old 06-21-2021, 08:12 AM
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They took me to the cleaners on a recent sale of an LSA supercharger lid. Then they held my money for four weeks. Now they want my banking info to bypass PayPal. Im done with selling on ebay. Never again….

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Old 06-21-2021, 08:35 AM
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They took me to the cleaners on a recent sale of an LSA supercharger lid. Then they held my money for four weeks. Now they want my banking info to bypass PayPal. Im done with selling on ebay. Never again….

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yep, no more paypal for sellers to collect their money. Now you have to have a bank account connected to your ebay profile so they can collect their ridiculous fees immediately after the sale.

No thanks.

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Old 06-21-2021, 08:45 AM
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They took me to the cleaners on a recent sale of an LSA supercharger lid. Then they held my money for four weeks. Now they want my banking info to bypass PayPal. Im done with selling on ebay. Never again….

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As soon as they told me they had to have my bank account info to sell stuff I pulled my only ad and I’m done selling there. Didn’t they start PayPal? Their greed will end up hurting them but I don’t think they care.

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Old 06-21-2021, 08:51 AM
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I stopped selling on e bay as well, when they asked for my bank account info.

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Old 06-24-2021, 06:05 PM
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I saw the handwriting on the wall years ago! I used to sell quite a bit on Ebay, in fact my brother was making a decent living selling on Ebay until they started getting GREEDY! When Ebay first required you to have a Paypal account to buy and sell, I said IDIAOS!!!!

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I can just see eBay charging sales tax here in Delaware, and New Hampshire too. I won't sell and very rarely buy anything thru them.

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Old 06-24-2021, 06:51 PM
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You guys really have been out of Ebay for a while. You can buy with paypal, credit card or google pay on Ebay, most purchases have sales tax added. If you are selling you have to set up a bank account as Ebay handles all the transactions now. Even if you sell something and the buyer pays with Payal the money is not transferred to a Paypal account. Ebay sends payments directly to your bank within a few business days. I think it is definitely harder for sellers as a buyer can return your item for reasons like they just changed their mind. I no longer offer returns on anything when selling on Ebay. Ebay will still let any buyer return an item if it is damaged or had a false claim/statement in listing. I had over 200 transactions last year and only had a problem with one yahoo. Ebay held up the payment for a month but ultimately paid me for the transaction as that persons credit card company sided with me as far as wording in the listing.

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You guys really have been out of Ebay for a while. You can buy with paypal, credit card or google pay on Ebay, most purchases have sales tax added. If you are selling you have to set up a bank account as Ebay handles all the transactions now. Even if you sell something and the buyer pays with Payal the money is not transferred to a Paypal account. Ebay sends payments directly to your bank within a few business days. I think it is definitely harder for sellers as a buyer can return your item for reasons like they just changed their mind. I no longer offer returns on anything when selling on Ebay. Ebay will still let any buyer return an item if it is damaged or had a false claim/statement in listing. I had over 200 transactions last year and only had a problem with one yahoo. Ebay held up the payment for a month but ultimately paid me for the transaction as that persons credit card company sided with me as far as wording in the listing.

Which is the problem. I'm not giving Ebay my banking info. Flat out. They can barely run their site, there's no way I'd trust them with any sensitive information.

I'm sure as hell not allowing them to act as the middle man for payments.

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As soon as they told me they had to have my bank account info to sell stuff I pulled my only ad and I’m done selling there. Didn’t they start PayPal? Their greed will end up hurting them but I don’t think they care.
Paypal was a different comany that eBay promptly bought.

I stopped selling years ago after seeing the fees get ridiculous, and sellers "rights" getting ignored all for a buyer protection scheme;
Then this past year I found out a couple Hotwheels I had were big ticket items, so I listed, and promptly sold them there - don't get me wrong, the listing fees, and paypal fees were alot , but the bill i was sent after the fact made it ridiculous to the tenth power.

I miss being able to see who's bidding against you - or being able to message other bidders.

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Ebay has done many interesting things over the years; ...

I didn't like the bank account issue, but had a talk with our bank manager. Have been with this bank for almost 60 years, and there are perks. One of which is a zero-balance account with no service charge. So we set up a special account so we could give the number to ebay, and funds are immediately transferred out of the account when something sells.

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Wow - that is a fan-freaking-tastic idea!

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Done with them myself, Hadn't listed anything in a while, and sold a 500.00 slot car they tried to take 80.00 and hold my money for 4 weeks. Told them and the buyer I would ship when paid. buyer was cool about it Ebay said no shipping no payment. Cancelled the sale and got with the buyer and he Paypaled me 500.00, Happy ending and eBay suspended me for it lol
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I understand doing stuff to protect buyers, but they have seemed to basically done alot lately on the expense of their sellers - and their sellers are what get them the lions share fo their revenue, so I don't understand that.

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Old 06-21-2021, 08:40 AM
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I left Ebay years ago as a seller, and rarely buy anymore. Their initial concept and business model was good, and successful - but like the US Congress, the more rules they add and change the game - the worse it works for everyone but them.

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Ebay has done many interesting things over the years; many because of those that sell on Ebay (the reason for the selling fees on the shipping has already been discussed in this thread).

Personally, I would LOVE to see them again start charging a listing fee, with a reduction in final sales fees. Now that there are no listing fees, some vendors are listing items at literally "dream" prices, then if someone watches the auction, sending them a "private" discount of maybe 15 percent (if one lists a hundred dollar item for a thousand dollars, then a 15 percent discount is still slightly overpriced ). Bringing back listing fees would minimize all the overpriced stuff one sees.

I didn't like the bank account issue, but had a talk with our bank manager. Have been with this bank for almost 60 years, and there are perks. One of which is a zero-balance account with no service charge. So we set up a special account so we could give the number to ebay, and funds are immediately transferred out of the account when something sells.

And no offense meant to anyone, but anyone that thinks 12.5 percent final value fees is high has NEVER been around auction companies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Learned this fact when disposing of my parents estate. Locally, if you bundle the stuff and take it to the location of the auction company, and allow it to be sold with no reserve, the fee is 25 percent!

If you have the auction company hold at auction at your location, the MINIMUM is 40 percent (again, sold with no reserve, except real estate), and they won't do the auction unless you have a certain value of goods.

The worst part of selling on ebay, unless one has new old stock Bugatti parts, is there is almost always someone that will undercut your price, and you have to cut the price to sell the item. Retail sales on ebay is an oxymoron.

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At least around here, Facebook Marketplace has mostly replaced eBay for cars.

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Not defending eBay but it's their site, they make the rules, they don't hide them and if you're not smart enough to research the info before you use them ................ it's on you.

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Ebay does make it confusing but I am sure they get scammed by crooked sellers and that is why they keep changing the rules. Ebay reaches the widest range of buyers IMO and that is why I still sell there. I think they also have those hard to find car parts that other places no longer carry. Selling junkyard parts on Ebay is my side hustle and allows me money to work on my projects. In fact it has allowed me to purchase parts to put AC in the 79 Truck.

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Not defending eBay but it's their site, they make the rules, they don't hide them and if you're not smart enough to research the info before you use them ................ it's on you.
Yeah, that's not the issue though. Ebay built their userbase by being pretty easy to use, and fair when it came to fees and user costs. Over the years they got greedy, screwed over sellers while catering to buyers, and now are trying to get sellers direct bank info.

Ebay sucks now. I used to get a ton of stuff off that site, but now it's one of the last sites I'll check for stuff.

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I'm done with selling anything on ebay. I'll still buy a lower priced item occasionally.

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