[Baron Von Zeppelin]

So only 20 - 1969 RamAir3 GTO's with 3spd Manual
Don't really sound right ..... ?

but maybe it is

Personally only know of 1 documented myself ,
Blue Convertible in NC

[Diego]

Look at the chart I posted early in the thread. You're off by about 300-400 units.

[robz]

BVZ, you're looking at the '70 numbers there...Diego posted the '69's...

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

If 400 L74 M13 were built in 1969
And 380 of those were Judges

Doesn't that leave 20 ?

What did i miss

Originally Posted by GTO JOHN

.... According to Eric White's GTO Identification Guide http://www.whitehouse-graphics.com/i...de%20book.html there were 400 cars built with RA3 engine and the 3 speed transmission. (8% of total RA3 manual trans production)

John's question was about 69 Judges [= 380]

i'm asking about 69 GTO's with L74 and M13
since it seems 20 is the number , and that is very low
perhaps correct too

I don't have any invoices at all for L74 / M13 GTO's
but have seen 1 invoice on a car that belongs to a friend in Jamestown .
Special Order warwick blue vert

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Have quite a few L74 / M13 69 Judge invoices
And own 1 of them .

Who has L74 / M13 69 GTO invoices ?
Vert invoices would be real interesting

[robz]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

If 400 L74 M13 were built in 1969
And 380 of those were Judges

Doesn't that leave 20 ?

What did i miss




John's question was about 69 Judges [= 380]

i'm asking about 69 GTO's with L74 and M13
since it seems 20 is the number , and that is very low
perhaps correct too

I don't have any invoices at all for L74 / M13 GTO's
but have seen 1 invoice on a car that belongs to a friend in Jamestown .
Special Order warwick blue vert

Yes you are correct...I misread your statement initially...Thought u meant Judges...

[poncho-mike]

There was an OO 69 Judge with very low miles in SW VA about twenty years ago. The owner got in a very bad accident in his friend's car, and lost his leg. The car sat parked in front of his mobile home for years.

I believe I ran the PHS on it. It was a 3-spd bench seat car, OO with black interior. It had the original WS engine and all of the correct parts. I believe he had put 15" Rally IIs on the rear of the car.

It was starting to get rusty back then. The owner wouldn't sell. I often wonder what happened to that car.

Mike

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Was it a 69 Orbit O , or a 70 Orbit O
69 would be ultra rare

sounds just like Dougs 70 in Tennessee

[jimmy daniel]

There's a CR 69 Judge here in Montgomery that came with a ram air III and 3 speed. Has wrong motor now but still has 3 speed. No hood tach, bench seat and am radio. That was IT!
Hasn't run in 20 years. Tried many times to but it before I restored the Liberty Blue 69.

[jimmy daniel]

I pulled a PHS on it years ago and still have it.

[robz]

I have 2 PHS's for '69 Judges with ONLY OPTION being the Judge...Nothing else...1 parchement int/buckets, 1 black int/buckets...both sold to same dealer (around early March '69 timeframe)...

[johnta1]

I pulled a PHS on it years ago and still have it.

Can you post a scan of it?

[Diego]

Originally Posted by robz

Yes you are correct...I misread your statement initially...Thought u meant Judges...

Yeah, me too.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by robz

I have 2 PHS's for '69 Judges with ONLY OPTION being the Judge...Nothing else...1 parchement int/buckets, 1 black int/buckets...both sold to same dealer (around early March '69 timeframe)...

Monk King in Texas

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by jimmy daniel

I pulled a PHS on it years ago and still have it.

J-Vert serving life sentence on death row

[robz]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Monk King in Texas

Correct...Any idea why they were ordered so bare BVZ?

[robz]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

J-Vert serving life sentence on death row

For real?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by robz

Correct...Any idea why they were ordered so bare BVZ?

Cheap quick easy sales - low cost leaders - publicity attention draws on the lot - etc ...

Compared to a Verdoro YS Auto with a couple of options a few cars down the row -
Those base Judges were about the same money ... or less

i think supcarbob posted those invoices originally - he was with Monk King back then.
He might fill in blanks if he comes on here.

Believe he also posted a No Option 70 GTO (blank invoice) from Monks.
He said they always ordered some No-Option GTO's every year

[flyingn]

little off topic but I looked at a 70 GTO 455 3 speed car in State College for same in the early 80's. That had to be rare as heck

[mrennie]

According to my GM Canada information package, my car was originally a Cardinal Red 3 speed Judge, only options were The Judge and white stripe tires.