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Old 07-27-2015, 07:06 AM
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Default 1972 Lemans GT 455 HO

Fred Simmonds documented in 1989 that in 1972 Pontiac built:

10 455 HO M22 4 speed Lemans GT Hardtops
2 455 HO M22 4 speed Lemans GT Convertibles

4 455 HO M40 Auto Trans Lemans GT Hardtops
5 455 HO M40 Auto Trans Lemans GT Convertibles

Curious to see, if any board members have pics and PHS on these rare 72 GT's?

If so, post pics and PHS.

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2 of the three convertibles known to have survived....

Yellow GT Convertible - auto



Sundance GT convertible - auto

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Forrest has the third too.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...mans+GT+455+HO

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Here are the PHS invoices for Forrest's car and the Monarch Yellow car.

I don't believe that I've seen any docs for that Sundance GT HO 'vert.

Also a photo of Forrest Fulton's awesome Cameo White HO GT 'vert!
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Thanks for posting guys.

So these 72 455 HO GT's only had a diecast 455 emblem on leading ends of front fenders?
Would 72 GT's with D port 455 have the same diecast 455 emblem as well?
400 and 350 GT's had engine call on rocker panel or nothing at all?

Thus,no 455 HO decal like 71 GT -37's?

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Thanks for posting guys.

So these 72 455 HO GT's only had a diecast 455 emblem on leading ends of front fenders?
Would 72 GT's with D port 455 have the same diecast 455 emblem as well?
400 and 350 GT's had engine call on rocker panel or nothing at all?

Thus,no 455 HO decal like 71 GT -37's?
Hey Rich -

Fender-mounted die cast emblem only on the 455-equipped non-GTO optioned 1972 LeMans.

Non-GTO optioned 350 and 400 1972 LeMans had rocker-mounted die cast engine callouts.

No 1972 GTO had die-cast engine callouts. The L75 455 GTOs had the quarter panel "GTO 455 C.I.D." decals, and of course the HO GTOs had the quarter panel "GTO 455 H.O." decals. The standard engine L78 400 GTOs used the "GTO" quater panel decals.

Hope this helps!

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Yes, the D-port 34W L75 455 got them too.




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Can only find 1 Hardtop so far.
Don't remember whose car it is or how/where I got the Invoice from.

White / Black Vinyl Top
455HO Automatic
Sport Option
GT Option
Endura Option
Y99/724 Handling Pkg Option

What did the Sport Option get you ?
What did the GT Option get you ?
Was Sport a requisite in order to get GT ?


Have a file copy of the Yellow 72 GT 400 mag test with Ducktail and Y99.
But it seems to have some errors written into the article.

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Answered one of my own questions.
Stripper GT with Special Paint in Tarheel Blue that Harper once owned.
Black Bench Interior, 3spd Manual
No Sport option.

Noticing the 350 2bbl was an option in addition to the GT Option.
Wonder if that was a requisite , or if could get GT with Strait 6cyl. ?

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The HO might be Gary's car Todd.

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Can only find 1 Hardtop so far.
Don't remember whose car it is or how/where I got the Invoice from.

White / Black Vinyl Top
455HO Automatic
Sport Option
GT Option
Endura Option
Y99/724 Handling Pkg Option

What did the Sport Option get you ?
What did the GT Option get you ?
Was Sport a requisite in order to get GT ?


Have a file copy of the Yellow 72 GT 400 mag test with Ducktail and Y99.
But it seems to have some errors written into the article.

I have a copy of that (pre-PHS) invoice as well, Todd. MY file name "tag" indicates that it is/was indeed Gary Daniel's car Chris.

Here's the GT option contents, among others. A minimum of the 350 V8 was a "forced" option, witness the dual side-splitter exhaust which was part of the GT option.

Sport option included buckets, console, up-level door trim panels with pull straps, etc.

One did NOT need to order the sport package to order the GT option.

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I've cut up and parted three '72 350 2bbl LeMans GT hardtops that had std interior and bench seat. The sport package added bucket seats and the up level doorpanels.

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I have a copy of that (pre-PHS) invoice as well, Todd. MY file name "tag" indicates that it is/was indeed Gary Daniel's car Chris.

Here's the GT option contents, among others. A minimum of the 350 V8 was a "forced" option, witness the dual side-splitter exhaust which was part of the GT option.

Sport option included buckets, console, up-level door trim panels with pull straps, etc.

One did NOT need to order the sport package to order the GT option.

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yes that's mine. it is a triple white car. still has the splitter exhaust tips on it.

in the Pontiac sales book, it says the gt is not available with the sport option for some reason. which is obviously wrong.

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I have a copy of that (pre-PHS) invoice as well, Todd. MY file name "tag" indicates that it is/was indeed Gary Daniel's car Chris.
My memory's failing Lloyd, thankfully it's not all gone.

Like you guys, I need to write more stuff down.

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yes that's mine. it is a triple white car. still has the splitter exhaust tips on it.

in the Pontiac sales book, it says the gt is not available with the sport option for some reason. which is obviously wrong.
Any chance you could grab a couple pics of the car for us Gary? You can text them to me & I'll post them if it's easier.

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Hey Rich -

Fender-mounted die cast emblem only on the 455-equipped non-GTO optioned 1972 LeMans.

Non-GTO optioned 350 and 400 1972 LeMans had rocker-mounted die cast engine callouts.

No 1972 GTO had die-cast engine callouts. The L75 455 GTOs had the quarter panel "GTO 455 C.I.D." decals, and of course the HO GTOs had the quarter panel "GTO 455 H.O." decals. The standard engine L78 400 GTOs used the "GTO" quater panel decals.

Hope this helps!
Thanks Lloyd
You say 455 CID and or 455 HO decals were on rear quarters, below GT whale stripe?
Anyone have a pic of that?

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Thanks Lloyd
You say 455 CID and or 455 HO decals were on rear quarters, below GT whale stripe?
Anyone have a pic of that?
You're welcome, Rich.

Here are a couiple shots of John Skwirblies (sp?) gorgeous SO '72 GTO. Complete with it's 1-of-2 factory installed ducktail spoiler. Not a 455 or HO car, but the decal placement would be the same.

Note the incorrect 1971 MY ribbed tail lamp lenses.
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You're welcome, Rich.

Here are a couiple shots of John Skwirblies (sp?) gorgeous SO '72 GTO. Complete with it's 1-of-2 factory installed ducktail spoiler. Not a 455 or HO car, but the decal placement would be the same.

Note the incorrect 1971 MY ribbed tail lamp lenses.
Lloyd, I know 455 cid or 455 HO decals were on rear quarters of 72 GTO, I was wondering if a 455 or 455 HO 72 GT received same decals on rear quarter under whale stripe?

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GT got a solid stripe, not the whale or strobe stripe.

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GT got a solid stripe, not the whale or strobe stripe.
Correct. And below the solid (3M reflective material) stripe, NO engine callout decal on the GT.

Witness Forrest Fulton's properly "decalled" 455HO GT 'vert.
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