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But maybe this isnt what your looking for since you didnt want to take it all apart. I would say just get some headers, a good 4 barrel, get the CR up, and since you are changing top end stuff get a cam.
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Hmm, I want to boost it up a little though.
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1973 base firebird Original 350, with 69' #46 heads, crower 60240, 9.3:1 cr |
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adam find a set of 68 thru 70 350 heads 47,17 or 11 casting it will bump the compression a little,068 cam adv 4 deg will help out on the bottom end power.And try to find a 3.23 posi from a T/A and run a 2 1/4 in dual exhaust.
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I see some 46 and 16 heads going on ebay, which CR is 10.5 and 10.75 respectively. Is this just way too high to make work?
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1973 base firebird Original 350, with 69' #46 heads, crower 60240, 9.3:1 cr |
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A 72 cc head like a 46 will put you around 9.0 not 10.50 .
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What B-man and Ace said. Yes, a 350 Pontiac can hold it's own against other sizes and brands of engines very well.
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Goquick, any advice as far as which heads I should try to find and how I should build them? I need to find a cam also, (068?) and I want to get a rebuilt qjet 4bbl and stock intake manifold(72ish?). At the same time I will add some Dougs headers and convert to dual exhaust.
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1973 base firebird Original 350, with 69' #46 heads, crower 60240, 9.3:1 cr |
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Enjoyed reading about your 9-second 350 engine.
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 |
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I just found some 68 cast 17 heads that have already been redone for only $125. They look like new. Should I jump on this?
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1973 base firebird Original 350, with 69' #46 heads, crower 60240, 9.3:1 cr |
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Yes.
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---------------------------- '72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car! '73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match. |
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What about these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1293725&rd=1,1 They are rated at 10.75 on a 400 that year, vs the #17 which is rated at 9.2 on a 350....
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1973 base firebird Original 350, with 69' #46 heads, crower 60240, 9.3:1 cr |
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Because the 350 displaces less than the 400, the compression ratio will be lower on it using heads with the same chamber size. Assuming 72cc for those #16 heads, they'll produce the same 9.2:1 on your 350 as the #17s.
The #16s do flow better with large valves, and screw-in studs are an advantage also but you may have problems with valve to block interference if running a cam with much more than .450" or so lift and you will end up spending a lot more on them as their initial purchase price is higher and the ones in that auction need a complete rebuild. I'd go for the #17s instead.
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---------------------------- '72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car! '73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match. |
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Ok, hes going to ship them up to me next week.....I might have them ported once I findout what all has been done to the heads already.
Onto my next item, I need to find an intake manifold and quadrajet carb to rebuild. Should I get something and rebuild it myself or is there someone to send it out to? I was about to order jim hand's book and I saw the cliff book for rebuilding quadrajets. I found a couple on ebay.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...11213453QQrdZ1 or this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PONTI...13262034QQrdZ1 And for the intake manifold, I can use pretty much any 68-72 manifold correct?
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1973 base firebird Original 350, with 69' #46 heads, crower 60240, 9.3:1 cr |
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Adam, 2.05" intakes work very well in those 17's.
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Actual compression is closer to 8.9 with the typical uncut 72cc heads. I like the 068 cam for a mild engine combo. Advance it 4 degrees. Use 1.65 rockers and a spring like the Crower or Crane drop in's work great.
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Not to thread highjack, but my "stock" 68 with #17 heads, heddman 3 tube headers, pypes 2.5" with an x pipe and 2.56 gears feels like a beast.
much more and I would buy stock in a tire company.....then again, I do treat the gas pedal like it is an on-off switch..... |
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A Q-jet is a great choice though I don't know how I feel about buying one off Ebay. There was a time when the wrecking yards were full of them, but I guess that's not the case any more.
Yes, any '68-'72 intake will work fine. Later intakes will work okay too, but they are even heavier because of the EGR provisions and you will need a '73 or later valley pan for them to fit.
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---------------------------- '72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car! '73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match. |
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Well I have a 73 valley pan on right now, so an earlier manifold will fit right?
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1973 base firebird Original 350, with 69' #46 heads, crower 60240, 9.3:1 cr |
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Yep. The '73 and later valley pans had a deep relief in them to clear the big bulge on the bottom of the '73 and later intakes, so this just makes even more clearance under the earlier intakes.
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---------------------------- '72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car! '73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match. |
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Give the local mice a chance to take a refreshing dip before you finish drying your engine.
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 |
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