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Bills the specialist because his hydro actually works.
what I have learned from EVERY MANUAL is that it is critical that you tune your engine to factory specifications, then service your tranny. so be carefull driving it around with a bad carb or tired ignition. also check linkage to make sure the pivot points are not all worn. all that is important in its own way but more important cause it determines how the tranny shifts properly. and new trannys can cost you dearly. |
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Lyn's truck isn't a Hydra-Matic, so I know even less about it.
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My Pontiac is a '57 GMC with its original 347" Pontiac V8 and dual-range Hydra-Matic. |
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Talking about my '57 parts truck Bill, It has a hydramatic! Need to get a carb. kit for it before driving it anymore. Don't want to damage the transmission!!! If the thing is in reverse not running will the parking pawl hold it like its in park like the manual says?
Lyn.
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Yes, the pawl should drop in when internal fluid pressure drops when the engine stops. Pawl is spring loaded. If you turn off the engine with the shift lever not in reverse you should be able to push the truck by hand. While moving slowly put the shift lever into reverse. You should hear the clunk of the pawl and the truck should abruptly stop.
Works best with the driveshaft in place!
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Bill, Mike, don't suppose you know anyone with a P.S. column for Hydramatic? I bought a box and drag link for $250.00. Came off a Cali. truck that the guy put a clip under and he cut the column and used it? I also have a pump and brackets off '57 347 Cheiftain that should work, so half way there!
Lyn.
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several sources tell me that the end of a power steering column for a 57 pontiac is what you need to graft on to the end of your GMC column.
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#47
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An original power box? Nice score!
Don't have a power steering column for you. But I just recently finished modifying my standard-steering column to add a rag joint (not for power steering- merely for noise isolation). Shortening the column and housing and adding a sealed bearing wasn't terribly difficult.
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Sounds good Mike, I just happen to know where there is a '57 with P.S. setting!
Jack, Found this setup at Goodguys show at Chicagoland Raceway yesterday, thanks for the info! Lyn.
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Need a power steering bracket for my '59 as this '57 unit won't bolt up without changing the front cover or making my own bracket. Looks like I need a '59 or '60 pump and bracket, will this pump work with my power steering box?
Lyn.
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If it were me, I'd change to the '57 timing cover and upgrade it to the '63 front seal before I put it on the engine. I'd be glad to loan you my wiz-bang timing cover alignment tool if you decide to do this. Bill Eveland can tell you how well it works.
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Bill, Might just drop the whole '57 motor and trans. in and not have to pull the trans. and switch it to the '59 motor. The '57 only has 65,000 on it and runs well! If I do I will hit you up for the tool to change the seal. Is there a draw back to running the '59 P.S. pump and bracket?
Thanks Lyn.
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will a 59 PS set up fit a 57?
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Don't know about that, but the '57 setup will not go on my '59 without changing the timing cover!
Lyn.
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I'm just curious- how much difference in the locations of the timing cover's threaded mounting holes?
I remember hearing that there was an "interim" piece between the timing cover and the pump, on some if not all of these early engines. Would it merely be a matter of the correct "interim" piece to mate things up?
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All 55-59 GMC (Pontiac) V8 engines used the same timing cover, 518033. 55-58 Pontiac engines used this same part. '59 Pontiac engines used a different part, 532443. I don't know if there are other differences are between the two covers, but I do know that the '59 cover doesn't have the tapped hole right on the top center that one of the mounting bolts for the earlier power steering bracket uses. It does have the other threaded hole in the same position (off center to the driver's side) as the earlier mount.
The '59 Pontiac power steering pump mounted lower and outboard of the driver's side head with no attachment to the timing cover. This was to allow clearance to the lower hood on the wide track '59.
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