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#21
05-01-2024, 01:40 AM
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Just got a Powermaster 9510 today and was wondering if I may need to do any shimming - the OEM starter is currently using only one, and I don't think it's even necessary as it always has engaged fine...I was surprised the 9510 weighs only about 25% as much as the OEM one...
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78 White T/A, Carmine interior, Fisher T-tops, WS-6 package, 3.08 gears, a/c, rear discs. Original 403 with 300,000 miles replaced by new Pontiac 455 (roller everything, 6x-4 heads, Performer manifold, Hooker Headers, Hughes converter, Cliff's Q-jet) - I only get 12 mpg! |
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#22
05-01-2024, 07:26 AM
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You should install it and pull out the pinion gear to check the pinion gear to flywheel tooth clearance. Shim as necessary to get about 0.040-0.060" clearance.
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1967 Firechicken, 499", Edl heads, 262/266@0.050" duration and 0.627"/0.643 lift SR cam, 3.90 gear, 28" tire, 3550#. 10.01@134.3 mph with a 1.45 60'. Still WAY under the rollbar rule. |
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#23
05-01-2024, 07:49 AM
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I have a jegs unit. been working great for over 5 years on my 455
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#24
05-01-2024, 09:34 AM
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I've had my RobbMc on 2 .030 455's I really like the clocking options and they have great customer service. I also bought their Power surge for issues with my Qjet running out of fuel.
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1979 Trans Am WS-6 .030 455 zero decked flat pistons 96 heads with SS valves 041 cam with Rhoads lifters 1.65 rockers RPM rods 800 Cliffs Q Jet on Holley Street Dominator ST-10 4 speed (3.42 first) w 2.73 rear gear __________________________________________________ _______________________________ 469th TFS Korat Thailand 1968-69 F-4E Muzzle 2 |
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#25
05-01-2024, 10:21 AM
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IMI, flawless for me and I like that the lugs are opposite the exhaust manifold.
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#26
05-02-2024, 12:07 AM
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A 400$ easy bolt on deal that can support a 1000 HP carburetor ed engine on a 1/4 mile pass with a dead stock fuel system. Quiet, pump is submerged in gas. |
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#27
05-02-2024, 03:12 AM
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I think I posted this somewhere else, so forgive me if it's a repeat; however I am wondering with my set-up if I will need to bother with any shims changing to a 9510 - the OEM one did not...
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78 White T/A, Carmine interior, Fisher T-tops, WS-6 package, 3.08 gears, a/c, rear discs. Original 403 with 300,000 miles replaced by new Pontiac 455 (roller everything, 6x-4 heads, Performer manifold, Hooker Headers, Hughes converter, Cliff's Q-jet) - I only get 12 mpg! |
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#28
05-02-2024, 08:36 AM
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If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is |
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#29
05-02-2024, 12:50 PM
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When I installed the 9510XS in my '66, I had to use one of the supplied shims to move it farther away from the flexplate (i.e., toward front of vehicle). Out of the box, the bendix gear was sticking out a hair too far and was just barely contacting my flexplate when retracted. Took 15min to shim and reinstall - problem solved. It's going to vary depending on your setup.
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 1966 Pontiac GTO (restoration thread) 1998 BMW 328is (track rat) 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited (daily) View my photos: Caught in the Wild Last edited by ZeGermanHam; 05-02-2024 at 01:03 PM. |
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#30
05-02-2024, 03:58 PM
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My instructions that came with my old Summit starter said to use a 1/8" drill bit or welding rod and shim it until the "crotch" of the contact is 1/8"
I have never had any luck with those stock type shims. The last 2 engines I have done have a 1/2" flat washer under the outside bolt under the starter itself. "tilted" it in. |
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#31
05-03-2024, 10:12 AM
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70 TA, 467 cid IAII, Edelbrock D-port heads, 9.94:1, Butler HR 236/242 @ .050, 520/540 lift, 112 LSA, Ray Klemm calibrated Q-jet, TKX (2.87 1st/.81 OD), 3.31 rear https://youtube.com/shorts/gG15nb4FWeo?feature=share |
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#32
05-03-2024, 10:23 AM
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I've used the Powermaster and summit versions of these mini starters, quite a few of both. Powermaster has excellent customer service, I sent them one that I kicked back and destroyed, they fixed it VERY reasonably and shipped it back quickly. They're my go to starter, I currently have three of them on various veeeeehickles.
FYI, Olds and Pontiac share starters. Just in case you didn't know already. Could come in handy when looking thru used parts ads.
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Clutch Guys Matter _______________________________________ 53 Studebaker, 400P/th400/9" 64 F-85 72 4-4-2 Mondello's VO Twister II 84 Hurst/Olds #2449 87 Cutlass Salon 54 Olds 88 sedan |
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#33
05-03-2024, 12:07 PM
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I've had the RobbMc starter on my 67 for almost a decade. It's always been great for me.
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1967 GTO, 432 (428+.030), 4-bolt mains, factory Nodular crank, scat rods, icon dished pistons, Lunati HR 243/251@.050, .618/.622 lift, Edelbrock 72cc round port heads, 10.5:1, offy 2-4 intake, Edelbrock 650cfm carbs, Super T10 trans (2.64 first), BOP 10 bolt w/ Eaton posi and 3.36 gears |
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#34
05-03-2024, 12:07 PM
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I have a CSR mini starter in my 69 Bird. It’s been in service for over 10 years without any problems. Very nice quality starter that’s USA made. Spins the 428 effortlessly.
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#35
05-03-2024, 12:35 PM
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1979 Trans Am WS-6 .030 455 zero decked flat pistons 96 heads with SS valves 041 cam with Rhoads lifters 1.65 rockers RPM rods 800 Cliffs Q Jet on Holley Street Dominator ST-10 4 speed (3.42 first) w 2.73 rear gear __________________________________________________ _______________________________ 469th TFS Korat Thailand 1968-69 F-4E Muzzle 2 |
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#36
05-03-2024, 01:39 PM
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I’ve had an IMI in the bird since 2011 and it works great - it’s clock-able to make install a breeze.
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird 400/461, 290+ E D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears ‘66 Lemans, 455, KRE D-Ports, TH350, 12 bolt 3.90 gears '64 LeMans 400/461, #16 Heads, HR 230/236, TKO600, 9inch Rear, 3.89 gears (Traded) '69 LeMans Vert, 350, #47 heads: Non-running project |
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#37
05-13-2024, 10:05 AM
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Have a Powermaster #9610 waiting to be installed on my 400. It's my "first" mini-starter, so hopefully I'll be a mini-starter fan in the near future.
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2006 GTO/silver, 1969 Judge/Carousel Red, 1970 Judge/Black, 2002 T/A CETA..... |
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